Is Margarito so Great or is it Pure Floyd Hate?

[Jimislash]

This is a different boxing era. The fights now are on cable & PPV. Back then fights were on CBS. Thats why fighters arent big today. You say Floyd isnt like Tyson or Oscar but who is? Its them 2 and everyone else. Gatti doesnt have a big name. Gatti just got lucky and lived in Atlantic City. If he wouldve lived anywhere else then he wouldnt pack the house. Thats why he sells fights. Like Floyd said, let him have all his fights in Grand Rapids and watch him pack the house. Gatti can do it because AC is a big boxing and ******** place.

Floyd's name is now bigger then most in the sport after his Gatti win, Zab win when he packed the house, and he's been on TV alot. The Baldy fight will really tell how big his name is right now. If he gets that fight with Oscar then his name will be Super

"Bigger than most in the sport" isn't a ringing endorsement on his public appeal. That is my point. If you ask anybody(besides his devoted fans)who they want to see fight, PBF is not going to be on the list. This isn't about love for Margarito or hate for PBF. It is just about the desire to see a truly all-time great fighter in a memorable fight. In my opinion, PBF hasn't had that yet.

[bakey321]

he should fight Baldi..if he wants to dominate the division.. he should also fight Margarito....or the winner should atleast.

I really don't think that Floyd cares about the division. Floyd is on the way to cementing his legacy and earning million upon millions of dollars. Fights like DLH, Mosley, and Hatton (all future hall of famers) will do much more for his legacy and wallet than Margarito. Spinks holds the most legitimate 154 title, so that give PBF a title in another weight class (5 division champ). A victory over Margarito doesn't do much for PBF's legacy right now. If Margarito beats some good fighters then....

[DLT]

"Bigger than most in the sport" isn't a ringing endorsement on his public appeal. That is my point. If you ask anybody(besides his devoted fans)who they want to see fight, PBF is not going to be on the list. This isn't about love for Margarito or hate for PBF. It is just about the desire to see a truly all-time great fighter in a memorable fight. In my opinion, PBF hasn't had that yet.

Most guys dont get that until this stage of there career and you know he will soon fight Oscar, Mosley, and after that Hatton will be ready, Cotto, Williams, Margarito. Dont act like he hasnt tried. How many times have Hatton turned him down, Oscar, and Shane?

[trueboxingfan]

I really don't think that Floyd cares about the division. Floyd is on the way to cementing his legacy and earning million upon millions of dollars. Fights like DLH, Mosley, and Hatton (all future hall of famers) will do much more for his legacy and wallet than Margarito. Spinks holds the most legitimate 154 title, so that give PBF a title in another weight class (5 division champ). A victory over Margarito doesn't do much for PBF's legacy right now. If Margarito beats some good fighters then....

then we have a difference of opinion. i think DOMINATING divisions does more for a fighters legacy then fighting "names"....most boxing enthusiest agree...they will just say he beat guys that are not in thier prime..or if he loses, that he lost to guys not in thier prime

[Mech.]

I thought you were tired of all this Marg-Floyd stuff DLT.

[Amaro]

marg fans are just pissed mayweather won't fight who many believe has the style to defeat him, putting all accomplishments aside, I mean you got many boxing writers claiming it even larry merchant and ray "boom boom" manicini say it, I think they feel their fight would look similiar to castillo-mayweather 1 where as margarito wouldn't let mayweather off the hook and turn it into a bar room brawl.

[Jimislash]

Most guys dont get that until this stage of there career and you know he will soon fight Oscar, Mosley, and after that Hatton will be ready, Cotto, Williams, Margarito. Dont act like he hasnt tried. How many times have Hatton turned him down, Oscar, and Shane?

If this is what happens, I will be right there on the PBF bandwagon. I look forward to that type of itinerary for PBF, in no particular order.

[bakey321]

then we have a difference of opinion. i think DOMINATING divisions does more for a fighters legacy then fighting "names"....most boxing enthusiest agree...they will just say he beat guys that are not in thier prime..or if he loses, that he lost to guys not in thier prime

The difference is that in 20 years people WILL know who Oscar De La Hoya is. People MIGHT know who Antonio Margarito is. When you go through the list of fighters that beat Ali, you see Larry Holmes. Was Larry Holmes a great fighter? Sure he was good, but he lost to almost every big name he fought (Holyfield, Tyson, M. Spinks). But he will still be among the very few who beat the great Muhammed Ali. See my point? DLH beat the great Chavez, but nobody really talks about it being when Chavez was 34 and had almost 100 fights under his belt. It is about the big names.

[trueboxingfan]

The difference is that in 20 years people WILL know who Oscar De La Hoya is. People MIGHT know who Antonio Margarito is. When you go through the list of fighters that beat Ali, you see Larry Holmes. Was Larry Holmes a great fighter? Sure he was good, but he lost to almost every big name he fought (Holyfield, Tyson, M. Spinks). But he will still be among the very few who beat the great Muhammed Ali. See my point? DLH beat the great Chavez, but nobody really talks about it being when Chavez was 34 and had almost 100 fights under his belt. It is about the big names.

TOTALLY DISAGREE, Dela beat and old past his prime Chavez...not a great victory but a good one...



Holmes didnt get any credit for beating Ali..thats a joke,

[JMCbulls]

wow, u complain about margarito-floyd threads and everytime i come on i see a new one from u...j/ give it a rest.