Is Adam Booth overrated?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

An argument can be made about Ingle but McGuigan & Tibbs are unproven.

Apart from Josh Taylor who I think benefits immensely from a very weak division - who else has McGuigan trained that’s successful? Isn’t he the same guy who was taking selfies with Ryan Garcia like a groupie after his fighter quitted? He needs more to show he’s more than just a fitness trainer.

Tibbs hasn’t done anything apart from Dillian Whyte who isn’t a great boxer. The only thing Whyte has is his left hook.

Peter Fury did well with Tyson & made him a world champion. And he’s doing a great job with Savannah Marshal & Hughie.

Nah McGuigan did a great job with both Frampton and Groves.

Taylor has some good wins too. Postol, Baranchyk and Prograis are good wins. That ain’t a week resume.

With Tibbs you have a point, I’m going more off his work under his dad, but his resume isn’t that deep as a head trainer. You’ve only got Whyte and limited work with BJS really.

[Yaconcha]

You don't know **** about boxing.

Josh Warrington lost due to strategy/tactics. Same for Josh Kelly & Callum Smith. All due to trash trainers.

I don’t think that’s entirely accurate.
It’s the fighter who has to go in and execute their plan and there will 9 times out of 10 be only one winner.
If both fighters go in and execute their plan then, you would have to say that the loser made a poor plan and only then, we could say the trainer is answerable or chit.

[kafkod]

He was out of his depth. All flash but no bite & it falls on the trainer. The same Callum Smith & Josh Warrington's defeats fall on their trainers.

Would you have said the same if it were Tunde Ajayi?

Tunde was criticised more for the way he managed Yarde than for his training methods. Jumping straight up from domestic level to a world title fight against a formidable - but fading - champion like Kovalev was a gamble that didn't pay off.

[paulf]

Booth is a great trainer.

Kelly show-boated, dropped his hands, and carelessly traded with a top-shelf fighter. If the path to victory is smart boxing but the fighter goes out and thinks with his balls, it's not going to work out. Little Booth can do there.

I haven't seen Kelly outside of last weekend but he appears to have the Jermaine Taylor curse of looking like god for the first quarter of the right but then fading quickly.

[PRINCEKOOL]

The Ingle gym is arguably the best in the UK. They developed champions since they were like 8 years old. A lot of trainers inherit fighters when they’re already kind of established but the Ingle gym has taken a lot of fighters from being children to world level fighters.

Peter Fury is good, But let’s not forget he wasn’t even training Tyson at the start of his pro career. His uncle Hughie was his trainer before he died. Tyson had already been a solid amateur and good domestic level pro before Peter even took over. Peter was in back jail when Tyson was turning pro and coming through the ranks

Yes, I was going to mention Dominic Ingle. I think Booth & Ingle are very similar in demeanor and character, they excel working with certain types of fighters.

There seems to be certain collection of traits that those trainers are looking for 'Those fighters will be drawn to the Ingle gym'.

Note: I will kind of judge a coach, sometimes it is just personal. Whenever I listen to Peter Fury in interviews, and I have also seen various training sessions he has run 'He just seems like a good trainer'. I like boxing coaches who can also put the fighters through their own strength and conditioning, I know Booth & Fury can do all of that.

Sometimes what makes a great coach is, not just text book information 'There are plenty of people who get their coaching badges for various sports and have read many books etc'.