How come Pacquiao was able to surpass Floyd's longevity?

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  • blowblow
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    #21
    Originally posted by HrNY
    The steroids were catching up to Floyd. Marquez took steroids and he left soon after.
    yeah his body paid the toll of using steriods. he knows his body that's why he can only fight youtubers in exhibitions.

    he fights with low threat level so he will still be atleast included in the talk of the town or simply to stay relevant.. but longevity? nah..

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    • FeFist
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      #22
      Let me see if I have things right.

      1) Pacquiao surpassed Floyd in terms of longevity.

      2) Pacquiao is younger than Floyd.

      3) Floyd waited until Pacquiao was shot.

      The lengths some of you will go to. It is like you're torn between praising Pacquiao and tearing down Floyd's accomplishments.

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      • hugh grant
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        #23
        Originally posted by Dosumpthin
        since when is being champ for 20years at anything in life not considered long-term?


        50-0. ****** hater.
        Floyd had good longevity, which was stretched for all its worth with long lay offs, and less fights.
        Why is it so hard for floyd fans to admit Floyd's longevity wasn't as superior as pacs? Almost as if Floyd fans put a lot of value in longevity and are envious.
        Isn't having a win over pac enough? Now Floyd fans want us to believe either longevity means nothing, or Pac hasn't got longer longevity than floyd?
        Floyd has a win over pac and is unbeaten. Be grateful for that
        Last edited by hugh grant; 02-18-2021, 12:52 PM.

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        • MONGOOSE66
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          #24
          Personally I feel that Mayweather was always boxing these young up and comers in the gym. He sensed he was slipping and got out. Nothing wrong with that. Smart man in my opinion.
          Pac, I feel, is just a ball of energy. He still LOVES boxing, basketball and exercising.
          He has great genetics too. I really wish he would retire though. Dont want to see him get hurt.

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            #25
            Originally posted by hugh grant
            If a boxer starts at 16, wins titles at 19 and for example is still competing at 50 years old, it is a reflection of greatness.

            It is either here or there. Someone who does things at highest level for longer is greater. Anyone who does things for shorter duration there's more element of luck involved you've just not be found out. The longer you do things more chance to be found out.

            Otherwise what reason would there be for old men to box in a young man's sport you'd be on a hiding to nothing you can get hurt. It's not child's play.
            It’s a reflection of their greatness and longevity.

            But just because a guy has more longevity doesn’t necessarily make them greater.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Bipolar Hero
              For years Floyd and his fans bragged about how much longevity he had, how little punishment he took, etc etc.

              Yet Pacquiao took way more punishment, was way more entertaining, and still managed to stay champion into his 40s.

              How was he able to do it?
              Because he had to.

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              • Da Pimper
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                #27
                I dunno... Asian genes?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  It’s a reflection of their greatness and longevity.

                  But just because a guy has more longevity doesn’t necessarily make them greater.
                  It is something historians value longevity. More than unbeaten records. Even floyd fans are threatened by Pac s longevity with excuse like pac is fighting because he has to not because he cares for legacy? I mean, pac is winning fights against very good opponents he's not a journeyman.

                  So what makes someone greater? Home advantage wins, a former flyweight with 70 fights under his belt being your best win.?

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                  • LeOoze
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by hugh grant
                    It is something historians value longevity. More than unbeaten records. Even floyd fans are threatened by Pac s longevity with excuse like pac is fighting because he has to not because he cares for legacy? I mean, pac is winning fights against very good opponents he's not a journeyman.

                    So what makes someone greater? Home advantage wins, a former flyweight with 70 fights under his belt being your best win.?
                    pac isn't floyd's best win lmaoooo

                    Floyd's best wins >>> pac's best wins
                    Floyd beated Pac, easily
                    Pac's greatest nemesis after Floyd, Marquez, KNOCKED the **** outta Pac. Floyd schooled Marquez for 12 rounds

                    Everyone that fought Floyd has said that Floyd is a better boxer than Pac. I know it hurts but Pac is behind Floyd.

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                    • meat_abstract
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by MONGOOSE66
                      Personally I feel that Mayweather was always boxing these young up and comers in the gym. He sensed he was slipping and got out. Nothing wrong with that. Smart man in my opinion.
                      Pac, I feel, is just a ball of energy. He still LOVES boxing, basketball and exercising.
                      He has great genetics too. I really wish he would retire though. Dont want to see him get hurt.
                      This.

                      Pac loves to fight. Floyd loves money.

                      Floyd took financial control of his career early, and made a long-term plan for how he was going to make a ton of money and get out before his health got ruined. He learned from what happened to his father and his uncle.

                      Pac has made a lot of money too, but I'm guessing a lot more of it has gone to other people. Usually guys keep fighting into their 40s because a) they're like the Rolling Stones - they keep going because they don't know how to do anything else, or b) they didn't handle their finances and they need the money, or c) both.

                      Nobody knows Pac's situation except him and his accountant, but I'm guessing it's some amount of c).

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