Comments Thread For: Hearn: Wilder Legal Rift is Fury's Problem, Should Not Affect Joshua Fight

[Monty Fisto]

They can pursue legal action for as long as they can find lawyers who can dream up grounds. And if they are willing to pay they will continue to find such lawyers. But winning a case is rather different.

W is going to lose in court as a matter of contract law. It is inconceivable that there was not a time limit on the options for a return. Without such a limit the losing fighter could just sit there and hold up the winner forever and sue if they tried to continue their career. There is NO way that is ever going to happen.

So the question is not whether there is a time limit but (a) has that time period expired? and if so (b) is there any excuse that Wilder can come up with that he can argue means that although the limit was all used up he should still have some sort of claim?

(a) pretty sure it has expired - it has been LONG
(b) he delayed himself due to various injuries but such injuries won't give you an unlimited extension because otherwise the loser could lock up the winner as observed above by just continuing to claim injuries. So pretty much his only possible grounds would seem to be covid - force majeure. But there have been other fights during covid so I can't see that working.

Basically I just think all the noise is W moaning to cover his humiliation. I very very very much doubt he has a legal leg to stand on. And my strong su****ion that this is true is confirmed by the fact that the Fury AJ fight is proceeding undisturbed by W's noise. If he really had strong grounds and there really was a risk of a huge lawsuit the F team wouldn't be so unconcerned.

We can infer some of the details of the contract. I'm sure you are right it is a question of if the time limit has expired. From what has been said and the actions that have been taken, it seems there was a rematch clause which had to be exercised for a date in the summer of 2020 (July, it seems), but which also allowed a three-month extension in the case of injury. Wilder indicated he wanted the rematch, then said he had a bicep injury. So this meant a rematch in October.

Obviously that didn't happen. Pandemic delays, TV networks not wanting it, Fury's unwillingness, Wilder's unwillingness, this doesn't really matter as to the next stage defined by the contract. The next stage, it seems, was mediation.

So they entered that. They sit down with a mediator and try and find some common ground. The only clear message I've heard reported from that is that Fury won't fight Wilder.

The options from mediation are: do nothing (i.e. both parties agree to go their merry way); settlement; or litigation/arbitration. From what Arum says, the contract specifies arbitration rather than litigation as the final step for dispute resolution.

It seems the retired judge who was acting as the mediator will make the arbitration decision and both parties would be bound to that decision.

No idea where we are with that.

[ShoulderRoll]

It's Eddie Hearn's problem too, if it affects Joshua's fight with Fury.

[peplz]

Lol. ****** LDBC theories as usual. This is why rap based culture will never progress. It was systematically put in place to keep the American status quo a certain way. Senators like this too

Damn. You said some realness. Rap based culture is not a thing though. Its called mainstream culture. Hip Hop culture was created to counteract the status quo actually. But other than the use of the term “rap based culture” you hit the nail on the head.

[DanMan_UK]

Wilder can pursue whatever option he wants. Man's deluded.

The public wants Fury v AJ.

Leave that has been to fight some of AJs leftovers see if he's got anything left. Best getting a therapist and staying out of the public eye for a while til he sorts his life out tho.

[Boxviewer]

Wilder refused to talk to Fury's team point blank until after Fury announced he was moving on without Wilder.
Wilder himself admitted that the date had lapsed and said he'd applied for a rematch before the expiry date but it remained on a desk and was not forwarded in time.

How is that a strong case?

If you said were correct there wouldn't be any legal issue. So I still believe that Fury must face Wilder again or he must compensate him handsomely.

[elenio]

Your two posts are the closest things to sensical that I've read in this thread (including the article).

[Monty Fisto]

It's Eddie Hearn's problem too, if it affects Joshua's fight with Fury.

I don't think anyone disagrees with that statement, including Hearn. However, Hearn says he is confident it won't affect the Joshua fight with Fury and therefore on that basis -- the part that you are for some reason ignoring -- it is a Team Fury problem.

[ShoulderRoll]

I don't think anyone disagrees with that statement, including Hearn. However, Hearn says he is confident it won't affect the Joshua fight with Fury and therefore on that basis -- the part that you are for some reason ignoring -- it is a Team Fury problem.

We'll just have to see how it all plays out, to see if Hearn was right or wrong.

[MrFistz]

Wilder vs Joshua for undisputed in Texas lol. Fury's getting ko'd or stripped.

[sportbuddha]

Wilder pulling the same old crud, ‘I wanted it bad, I chased the fight’ yeah like the unification belt you chased with AJ, oh hold on, the one you later admitted to turning down because you wanted more money! Joke, padded record, got owned by a guy that jumped off the sofa after eating sausage rolls for a year then got absolutely embarrassed by him when he had some time to train, and Fury doesn’t exactly have a CV stacked with A1 opponents. Wilder the one punch wonder, who everyone knew couldn’t box, f-off back to fighting tomato cans and taxi drivers