Comments Thread For: Canelo Sees Another 6-7 Years Left in Career, Rules Out Foes at 175

[batista84]

You can give reasons on why your argument is better but not reasons why my argument is wrong.

I said better because I don't like to act as a smart guy when I'm not, I respect anyone's opinion and I won't call someone's opinion wrong, specially in a forum where I don't know who I'm talking to.

I just think I got better reasoning behind my arguments than you, but I won't say that I'm 100% right and you are 100% wrong.

Big difference a different word can make.

[Deleted]

The same posters who will criticize Canelo for not fighting at 175 lbs will defend Golovkin for not fighting Andre Ward at 168. Or they will defend Jermall Charlo for not wanting to fight at 168.

Blatant hypocrisy on their part if you ask me.

Did Canelo go around saying anyone from 154 to 168? No one will let that one go since the fighter you are talking about called out Floyd at 154 and said no Canelo at 154 etc. His promotional team are the ones that said no money in Ward fight and walked away from the challenge. All that stuff doesn't help since humans remember the negative stuff more easily (survival etc).

Charlo is Charlo... He sees life in 15 minute youtube vision or 30 second social media posts. He needs to moves past that and starts using his brain before life or the sport ruins him (the kid is smarter than he realizes).

[EternallyIll]

I said better because I don't like to act as a smart guy when I'm not, I respect anyone's opinion and I won't call someone's opinion wrong, specially in a forum where I don't know who I'm talking to.

I just think I got better reasoning behind my arguments than you, but I won't say that I'm 100% right and you are 100% wrong.

Big difference a different word can make.

Give me the reasons on canelo's last 5...

[DeeMoney]

Yeah, Canelo has often had things in his favor (see marinate til they are old) for some of his big fights, or gotten some unfair cards. But lets not act like this guy isnt one of, if not the, best fighter in the world right now. And hasn't consistently fought the best opponents out there.

If he is a huge favor in most of his fights, then thats because he is that good- and why should that be a problem. If he wants to fight at 168 then good for him, do your thing where you think you are best. I don't hear anyone complaining for Bivol to go up and fight Dorticos or Goulmarian; why not let a guy fight where he feels is his best?

[batista84]

Give me the reasons on canelo's last 5...

Spence
5 Peterson - Former 1 division champ, solid, but not a top welter at the moment Errol fought him, ok win.
4 Ocampo . No comment.
3 Garcia - Undefeated 4 division champ, great fighter, problem is that he was coming up 2 divisions since his last fight before Spence was at 135. very good win.
4 Porter - 1 division champ and current champ, top 4 welterweight at the moment Errol fought him, great win.
5 Garcia - 2 division former champ, top 5 welterweight at the moment Errol fought him, great win.

Alvarez
5 GGG - Undefeated unified 3 belt and consensus #1 MW of the world, P4P top 5. elite win.
4 Fielding - No comment.
3 Jacobs - 1 division champ and current champ, top 4 MW at the moment Canelo fought him. great win
4 Kovalev - 1 division champ and current champ, top 4 LHW at the moment Canelo fought him, past his prime still Alvarez moving up two divisions to fight a top LHW. great win.
5 Smith - Undefeated 1 division champ, The Ring champ and consensus #1 SMW of the world. great win

I do think Alvarez opposition has better credentials than Errol's opp, don't get me wrong Errol fought top fighters as I said, but not better overall.

Now 2021 will define a lot but if Alvarez were to become first ever 168 undisputed it will keep him above Errol unless Errol becomes undisputed beating Ugas and Crawford.

Beating Ugas and Crawford would be better than beating BJS and Plant but I don't see that Crawford fight happening very soon and I'm possitive that Alvarez will fight Charlo and Benavidez in 2022 which would make him untouchable if he keeps winning, of course.

[Hot Shyt]

Spence
5 Peterson - Former 1 division champ, solid, but not a top welter at the moment Errol fought him, ok win.
4 Ocampo . No comment.
3 Garcia - Undefeated 4 division champ, great fighter, problem is that he was coming up 2 divisions since his last fight before Spence was at 135. very good win.
4 Porter - 1 division champ and current champ, top 4 welterweight at the moment Errol fought him, great win.
5 Garcia - 2 division former champ, top 5 welterweight at the moment Errol fought him, great win.

Alvarez
5 GGG - Undefeated unified 3 belt and consensus #1 MW of the world, P4P top 5. elite win.
4 Fielding - No comment.
3 Jacobs - 1 division champ and current champ, top 4 MW at the moment Canelo fought him. great win
4 Kovalev - 1 division champ and current champ, top 4 LHW at the moment Canelo fought him, past his prime still Alvarez moving up two divisions to fight a top LHW. great win.
5 Smith - Undefeated 1 division champ, The Ring champ and consensus #1 SMW of the world. great win

I do think Alvarez opposition has better credentials than Errol's opp, don't get me wrong Errol fought top fighters as I said, but not better overall.

Now 2021 will define a lot but if Alvarez were to become first ever 168 undisputed it will keep him above Errol unless Errol becomes undisputed beating Ugas and Crawford.

Beating Ugas and Crawford would be better than beating BJS and Plant but I don't see that Crawford fight happening very soon and I'm possitive that Alvarez will fight Charlo and Benavidez in 2022 which would make him untouchable if he keeps winning, of course.

I agree with everything except Danny Garcia. I’m tired of seeing people gassing him. He has no significant wins at welter. He’s not top tier and people keep acting like he’s top tier

[pepzz]

Good stuff Nelo.

[JonDP]

Bummer, the only way I could see him losing would be in the LH division. He will not find enough resistance at 168 or 160 for the rest of his career.

[boliodogs]

That is a long time for a super rich 30 year old champion to stay pro, It is almost certain he will not be nearly as good at age 36 or 37 as he is now.

[whollisboxing]

he fought another tomato can with 2 days notice, F Clenelo.

Ok well who’s not a tomato can at 168 because Callum Smith was rated top-5 at worst.