Comments Thread For: Canelo Sees Another 6-7 Years Left in Career, Rules Out Foes at 175

[Combat Talk Radio]

Not fair. Danny wasnt undisputed. TC dominates everybody he fights. Danny Garcia should have two more losses on his record.. Crawford's wins vs Horn and Kavaliauskus are better than all of Danny's wins at 147.

Spence beat 2 top 5 guys, and should be considered the top guy in the weight class and the A-side. The problem is his fans keep making excuses for him not to fight TC while commending him for fighting guys that are below TC's level.

First of all, you forgot that Danny Swift BEAT Khan for lineal (the highest you can do).

Crawford's lineal titles were VACANT when he won them (Postol and Beltran).

You get more credit for BEATING the man than you do when you're told you're the man because nobody else is.

Danny Swift dealt with tougher competition at 140 than Crawford had to.

Second, Spence beat FOUR Top 5 welterweights.

Danny Swift has always been Top 5 since his fight with Keef. He declined only AFTER Spence washed him for 8 rounds, fresh off a major car wreck.

Brook was Top 5 when Spence stopped him ON HIS OWN TURF AND TERMS and took the IBF. Crawford refused to fight Horn in Australia and had to fake a hand injury to delay the fight and throw off Horn's camp.

Mikey Garcia was Top 5 (shouldn't have been, but he was and even now is #2 on WBC as I reported a week or so ago) when Spence pitched a shutout.

Shawn Porter is always Top 5. Spence got the W.

You can even do Top 10 and Algieri, Peterson and Ocampo were on the list when Spence stopped them. Ocampo is right back in the Top 10.


It's like some of you just look for strawman arguments and refuse to accept the facts in front of you because YOU don't like them.

Facts don't care about your feelings.

[xEcto1x]

Clenbuterol is waived by WADA. no asterisks at all. WADA said as long as you are under 2NG in any sport you all good like James Brown dancing in his songs!

Canelo Haters must hate WADA. lol. They cover Olympic sport!

Are you kidding me? WADA is an embarrassment. The past two Olympics have been fraught with doping bans.

Never forget, it ain't the first time you do something, it's the first time you got caught.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Here's a link. Page 6. Anabolic agents.

https://www.usada.org/wp-content/upl...bited_list.pdf

Including, but not limited to:
Clenbuterol, selective androgen receptor modulators [SARMs, e.g. andarine, LGD-4033 (ligandrol), enobosarm (ostarine) and RAD140], tibolone, zeranol and zilpaterol.

This took me 2 minutes to find. Straight from WADA.

You can delete this post now.

Never forget, it ain't the first time you do something, it's the first time you got caught.

Maybe you didn’t read what I wrote...

USADA, like the hundreds of anti doping agencies worldwide , abide by the WADA banned list. In 2019 WADA amended its old rule to allow 2NG for cases and research regarding meat contamination. Canelo is as below the threshold, and in case you are confused, there was never a threshold for Clenbuterol.

And since you brought UP USADA, BEFORE the new *********, USADA, had disciplinary action for athletes with adverse findings. Some were exonerated and some weren’t.

[Oldskoolg]

So then what he just did was admit that he had every advantage against a shot Kovalev.....

[Oldskoolg]

I never said that the guy fights nobodies, but even Roy Jones knew that Jacobs, Kovalev, fielding etc. weren't gonna win. Like I said belts are nice but fans don't really watch fights because the WBC title is on the line. I'm a Canelo fan, but unlike his other fans I hold him accountable. Errol spence fought Mikey Garcia, Shawn Porter, got into a car accident and still went on to fight Danny Garcia. Spence is winning belts and fighting the best. Why can't Canelo do this?

^^^^^^ I’m enjoying this bloke’s posts immensely

[Oldskoolg]

Canelo is too small for 175. He was never a light heavyweight. Canelo won a title at 175 but he was never #1 in the decision. Champion in four weight classes doesn't mean what it used to.

Rather like Leonard beating Lalonde for a light heavy title but making lalonde sweat down to super middle. Certain fighters work contracts to their advantage when other fighters see them as a cash cow

[Oldskoolg]

If you're GGG or Crawford you get praised for that...

Who praises them?

[Oldskoolg]

Few and far between and calculated. Not spontaneous and without abandonment. RJJ woke up one day and thought to himself he's like to be heavyweight champ. Pac woke up and thought he'd like to be 8 division champ and be oldest ever WW.
Floyd never fought outside backyard. He argued gloves, cw. Open your eyes, take rose tinted glasses off.



As above there's many things Floyd could have done or shouldn't have done to sabotage greatness.
Rematches, whether with better version of nelo, rather than kickboxers.
Give advantages away be it home advantage. Fight gg g or nel o at 160. And if Floyd did, it wouldn't be anything greats hadn't already done in the past

Floyd is from Michigan, I don’t recall many of his top fights fought there....what constitutes his “backyard”??????

[Oldskoolg]

First of all, you forgot that Danny Swift BEAT Khan for lineal (the highest you can do).

Crawford's lineal titles were VACANT when he won them (Postol and Beltran).

You get more credit for BEATING the man than you do when you're told you're the man because nobody else is.

Danny Swift dealt with tougher competition at 140 than Crawford had to.

Second, Spence beat FOUR Top 5 welterweights.

Danny Swift has always been Top 5 since his fight with Keef. He declined only AFTER Spence washed him for 8 rounds, fresh off a major car wreck.

Brook was Top 5 when Spence stopped him ON HIS OWN TURF AND TERMS and took the IBF. Crawford refused to fight Horn in Australia and had to fake a hand injury to delay the fight and throw off Horn's camp.

Mikey Garcia was Top 5 (shouldn't have been, but he was and even now is #2 on WBC as I reported a week or so ago) when Spence pitched a shutout.

Shawn Porter is always Top 5. Spence got the W.

You can even do Top 10 and Algieri, Peterson and Ocampo were on the list when Spence stopped them. Ocampo is right back in the Top 10.


It's like some of you just look for strawman arguments and refuse to accept the facts in front of you because YOU don't like them.

Facts don't care about your feelings.

Lad.....ease up a bit, any more
Rounds like that and the ringside doctor will stop the fight

[Fists_of_Fury]

Who praises them?

Tons of idiots call/called them top p4p, atg, the best in the division, etc... off feasting on bums.