More Skilled Ali or Roy

[Roadblock]

Ali was skilled.

RJJ athletic freak.

So was Ali only he was a HW he is not going do things at MW speed, go look at Roy at HW not MW .

Things change a lot from LH up as far as athleticism speed agility you cant really compare the HWs to guys a lot smaller.

[Zaroku]

Ali was skilled.

RJJ athletic freak.

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I smashed sun space... busted busted cheeks

C’mon I’m a boss

[-Kev-]

When Ali broke into the scene, no one has really seen a big man move like that. He moved like the typical welterweight and hit like a heavyweight.

With Roy Jones, no one’s ever seen anything like him in any weight class. I’d say Roy Jones.

[champion4ever]

I would have to say Muhammad Ali. All one has to do is to take a look at the second half of his career when his youth and athleticism had all but diminished. Therefore, he was forced to rely more on skill: Like the rope a dope for example.

This way he wouldn't expend so much energy throwing punches because he knew he wasn't a huge puncher and that he could no longer circle the entire ring for fifteen rounds without fatiguing and his back touching the ropes as he had done previously in his early youth.

He was able to make adjustments later in his career in order to succeed.

[edgarg]

Ali. He wasn't on steroids like Roid jones

Jones liked that popular drink you could buy at any store. It was called Ripped fuel, and all kinds of people drank it too. It had stuff in it the way Coca Cola and Pepsi have in theirs, only different. It didn't help his blazing speed nor super-reflexes. What he had he'd have had without Ripped Fuel. When it was found to contain a banned substabce he stopped drinking it, and it made no difference to him.

[edgarg]

I would have to say Muhammad Ali. All one has to do is to take a look at the second half of his career when his youth and athleticism had all but diminished. Therefore, he was forced to rely more on skill: Like the rope a dope for example.

This way he wouldn't expend so much energy throwing punches because he knew he wasn't a huge puncher and that he could no longer circle the entire ring for fifteen rounds without fatiguing and his back touching the ropes as he had done previously in his early youth.

He was able to make adjustments later in his career in order to succeed.

That rope a dope thing was just the imaginative invention of a journalist. The ropes were a bit slack. and Ali had tremendous stomach muscles, but more important, the fight was conducted in completely unreal surroundings and circumstances. You have to have read up and what happened before the fight, and the tremendous rstrictions and danger Foreman was in. He was aso very superstitous and actually got a witch doctor to put a spell under the ring do that devils wouldn't om eout and interfere with him. Ali had him completely psyched out and he was a nervous wreck. He never got used to lions roaming around free and wild, roaring all the time, as he later said. Besides when Ali got injured in training and the fight for postponed for nearly two months the dictator wouldn't let Foreman leave to go home and train there. He guarded him with armed soldiers wherever he went, ......and much, much more.

There's a 2 hour video about it on youtube. A lot of what actually happened was not mentioned, as it was made nearly 25 year after the event, but it makes very good watching.

[_Rexy_]

Ali because he still used fundamentals. Roy relied 100% on his athleticism which is why he looked like absolute dogchit once his prime was gone.

[champion4ever]

That rope a dope thing was just the imaginative invention of a journalist. The ropes were a bit slack. and Ali had tremendous stomach muscles, but more important, the fight was conducted in completely unreal surroundings and circumstances. You have to have read up and what happened before the fight, and the tremendous rstrictions and danger Foreman was in. He was aso very superstitous and actually got a witch doctor to put a spell under the ring do that devils wouldn't om eout and interfere with him. Ali had him completely psyched out and he was a nervous wreck. He never got used to lions roaming around free and wild, roaring all the time, as he later said. Besides when Ali got injured in training and the fight for postponed for nearly two months the dictator wouldn't let Foreman leave to go home and train there. He guarded him with armed soldiers wherever he went, ......and much, much more.

There's a 2 hour video about it on youtube. A lot of what actually happened was not mentioned, as it was made nearly 25 year after the event, but it makes very good watching.

You've missed the entire point my friend. We were talking about who was the more skilled; Ali or Jones not the Rumble in the Jungle bout with George Foreman.

I said Ali because he was aging and could no longer rely on his youth and athleticism to win fights. He was a master at conserving his energy later in his career because he was older, heavier and had lost a lot of his stamina and hand to eye coordination.

Which was the reason why he threw fewer punches and moved around the ring with his feet less and also was why he was as equally successful in the latter half of his career as he was in the first half of his career due to his ring IQ and wisdom.

[boliodogs]

I think both were extremely skilled in their primes. Jones was a bigger puncher and Ali was a better jabber. I can't pick a winner so I will call it a tie. Two of the very best in their primes.

[djtmal]

I say Roy was more skilled, but not by much.

Ali had more intangibles.