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  • #81
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
    Ranked by whom? There's 4 recognised titles in boxing and Joshua is champ of 3 of them.
    They belong to Fury anyway, Joshua is only holding a few belts, he's never beaten a real champion.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Kezzer View Post
      Really? Is that based on the anti AJ fans on here? Please share your logic behind that because it seems very obvious to me that Joshua has fans well beyond boxing fans and a fan base across many countries. Joshua would be spotted by pretty much anyone in uk where as fury wouldn’t. Simple as that when it comes to fan base really.
      Fury is just as well known as Joshua in the UK, and is certainly more well known in America.

      Those are the only countries that really matter.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by denium View Post
        They belong to Fury anyway, Joshua is only holding a few belts, he's never beaten a real champion.
        Joshua is a real champ. Can't call Fury one, he's never defended a title.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by denium View Post
          Fury is just as well known as Joshua in the UK, and is certainly more well known in America.

          Those are the only countries that really matter.
          Fury isn’t as well known in the uk to non boxing fans at all and certainly more people would pay ppv to watch Joshua here. I literally hear people talk about AJ at work who never ever watch boxing, that just doesn’t happen with fury - not even when he fought wilder.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Kezzer View Post
            Fury isn’t as well known in the uk to non boxing fans at all and certainly more people would pay ppv to watch Joshua here. I literally hear people talk about AJ at work who never ever watch boxing, that just doesn’t happen with fury - not even when he fought wilder.
            Yes he is, Fury is just as famous as Joshua in the UK, and everyone at my work was talking about Fury vs Wilder.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by rrayvez View Post
              I’m assuming reading comprehension isn’t a strong point of yours. I’ve clearly acknowledged that popularity is the primary reason for top billing historically in bixjng. I just made the point that I think it’s ******. For canelo to have gotten top billing over ggg was ******. For cotto to have gotten it over Martinez was ****** etc, and all this does is promotes pointless diva like behavior from boxers. No fan has ever looked at the billing and determined that was the reason why they wouldn’t purchase a fight. As it relates to Joshua, diva like behavior is why until now, he’s been fighting guys like pulev while fury and wilder got to fight each mother twice. As far as why the uk prefers Joshua over fury, I don’t know. I question the judgment of fans who passionately followed guys like khan, hamed, haye, hatton etc yet somehow prefer Joshua over fury because in your simplified words, you find him more attractive.
              You’re literally going around in circles, so I shall just assume you’re simple. I already said I fully hear your point that ranking should determine fight billing, and I only noted that the issue sometimes is that rankings are subjective, especially when you have two belt-holders facing off.

              What I actually took you to task on was you ******ly trivialising people’s preference for Joshua as being a “groupie”, before saying you have no idea why people prefer him. Then like the idiot you’re proving to be, you pointed out the popularity of British fighters with blistering offensive styles and dynamic punching who weren’t known for their defence to somehow support your argument. You’re telling me their styles have more in common with Fury than AJ? GTFOH
              Last edited by Blackstarr; 02-07-2021, 06:48 AM.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Blackstarr View Post
                As ridiculous as it is, Jake Paul/KSI are “PPV stars” in the strictest sense because they’ve sold millions of PPVs and crazily have real A class fighters like Devin Haney fighting on their undercards. We can all argue it’s perverse, which it probably is, but that’s the way things are now. In what sense is he not a “star”, and how would you explain these youtubers having world class fighters on their under cards? And I am in no way a fan of Jake Paul btw, and haven’t even watched a free YouTube highlight of his fights.

                I’m no millennial, and your response reminds me of a senile old man that insists that keeping money under the bed is safer and refuses to have an email address, while calling everyone else ****** for doing the opposite and living in the present.
                No, I actually thought this was a Brilliant response. I totally got wrong end of the stick with what you wrote. So I owe you an apology. Totally got you after reading.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Blackstarr View Post
                  You’re literally going around in circles, so I shall just assume you’re simple. I already said I fully hear your point that ranking should determine fight billing, and I only noted that the issue sometimes is that rankings are subjective, especially when you have two belt-holders facing off.

                  What I actually took you to task on was you ******ly trivialising people’s preference for Joshua as being a “groupie”, before saying you have no idea why people prefer him. Then like the idiot you’re proving to be, you pointed out the popularity of British fighters with blistering offensive styles and dynamic punching who weren’t known for their defence to somehow support your argument. You’re telling me their styles have more in common with Fury than AJ? GTFOH
                  false, first you had an issue on my stance about the rationale behind top billing because your limited reading comprehension skills couldn’t clearly grasp the point I was making. Then following my second post, you objected to me saying uk fans preferred Joshua over fury “for whatever reason”. You then listed Ajs offense, his character (or fury’s lack of character), and the fact that you find Aj more attractive. So in short what you’re saying is Fury isn’t an offensive fighter just because he’s known for defense also? Then how is it that he lets his hands go more than most other heavyweights and has 21 kos in 30 fights? As far as character, yes fury has had his issues but I guess overcoming adversity both inside and outside of the ring is less respected than Aj actually quitting in the ring and making excuses as to why. As far as looks, that’s a weird reason for dudes to support boxers and I won’t claim to know what Uk fans find attractive, but Ricky Hatton was more revered in the Uk than both Joshua and fury combined, and he looks like someone’s middle aged grandmother. Bottom line, I think Aj is more liked because he represented uk in the Olympics, medaled for them and portrays the patriotism uk fans want. Even though his roots are from Nigeria. Fury doesn’t give a s**% about pandering to the uk fans desire for over the top representation and represents his Irish Gypsy heritage more passionately.

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                  • #89
                    fury second to no man

                    fury wont be second on no poster for sure and will not walk to the ring first to be left waiting for the coward to pose around mark my words on that he wont care about the changing rooms hed change in a barn he wont accept ed *****s rigged judges and ref and thats why theres obstacles

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by jikeccfc View Post
                      fury wont be second on no poster for sure and will not walk to the ring first to be left waiting for the coward to pose around mark my words on that he wont care about the changing rooms hed change in a barn he wont accept ed *****s rigged judges and ref and thats why theres obstacles

                      The only thing Fury will be adamant on is coming out 2nd for the ring walks.

                      Everything else he doesn't care about. Even the poster, yeah in Fury's mind it should be Fury AJ, because Fury is the man and AJ wants what Fury has, Fury doesn't want or need anything from AJ, he just wants his scalp

                      AJ wants the lineal title, WBC belt and claim to the throne

                      Fury has the throne and does not care about the two belts AJ holds, he already has them in his front room. Never lost them in the ring. Fury should throw the IBF belt in the trash when he gets it back. GARBAGE.

                      People say fighters don't care about these details, they do. They have ego's. What Fury cares about though is getting the mental one-up on AJ. He already has it & wants to drive it home as FAR as possible. He wants to belittle AJ. He wants to make him feel like he's coming to his slaughter.

                      When all is said and done AJ is getting it the big dosser
                      Last edited by miniq; 02-07-2021, 08:59 AM.

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