Canelo now vs Prime Calzaghe

[chaosisme]

How would you rank canelo vs a prime mikkel kessler.

I'm not sure who wins that fight at 168.

We haven't seen canelo fight a guy who has the ability to impose a physical style on him at the higher weights, it's been old man Kovalev with no gas tank and bean pole callum smith.

I still admire the achievements but a prime kessler bodybags those two.

I also think the Hopkins who Calzaghe fought would be AWFUL for canelo.

On the whole I lean towards JC to win, I think canelo has to have style advantages against opponents this big, or some sort of advantage beit draining them down, them being old or just not very good

I don't see him beating anyone elite at 168 or above in a fight with no advantages, just don't see it, his career above 160 is gonna be a case of good optics.

Forgot to add, the Hopkins that fought Calzaghe is a bad night for anybody in that 160-175 span. Just a putrid and rotten old man style.

[Dodger07]

Never thought of this match-up... very interesting. I'd say Calzaghe has a unique combination of fast hands, high workrate yet slick defense that not many other fighters I can think of possesses. This and the fact that 168 is a more of a natural weight for him I'd slightly favor him in this matchup.

[thedarkdragon11]

Calzaghe via murder...

[DreamFighter]

they used to say the same thing about calzaghe before he turned 34 and faced lacy and kessler, but that was because he had done almost nothing before that.
Based on joe doing nothing previously, people though Joe wouldnt beat even a crappy lacy.

i'd wait till canelo has had one more defence at supermiddle, then you can judge them on equal footing with 3 recognised defences each.

[F l i c k e r]

Calzaghe wins.

He's the ultimate fortunate fate boxer.

He shouldn't win. Doesn't look like he should win. Yet, always manages to win.

So, I don't care how good Saul is. Calzaghe won't be beaten.

[Science]

Calzaghe ducked Ward and all the young 168 pounders at the time.

[whollisboxing]

Calzaghe ducked Ward and all the young 168 pounders at the time.

Calzaghe's last fight took place before the Super Six so I don't see it as ducking. They simply missed each other. You can make an argument that Joe could have come over to America sooner but he destroyed Jeff Lacy and won clean against a prime Mikkel Kessler.

Say what you want about Lacy but hindsight is 20/20 and Jeff was heavily favored at the time. Kessler was clearly Joe's top challenger at 168 and Calzaghe beat him.

Yes, he caught Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr. late but I don't blame him for cashing out with those fights. He was getting up there in age himself and everyone has to retire at some point.

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Canelo if the fight is in Mexico, Texas, Nevada or California.

Joe if the fight is in NY, NJ or overseas ( outside of Spain & Latin America )

If the WBC is involved forget it. It’s canelos win all day.

Post Lacy vs Canelo now I think I would give it to canelo. Joes claim to fame is fighting and Barely beating Hopkins and washed up jones.

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Calzaghe's last fight took place before the Super Six so I don't see it as ducking. They simply missed each other. You can make an argument that Joe could have come over to America sooner but he destroyed Jeff Lacy and won clean against a prime Mikkel Kessler.

Say what you want about Lacy but hindsight is 20/20 and Jeff was heavily favored at the time. Kessler was clearly Joe's top challenger at 168 and Calzaghe beat him.


Yes, he caught Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr. late but I don't blame him for cashing out with those fights. He was getting up there in age himself and everyone has to retire at some point.

I think he kinda ducked froch though. Not saying Froch would win.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Alvarez clearly lost to Golovkin in the first fight, and now he's going to beat one of the best super middleweight champions in history? I don't think so. I don't think Rocky Fielding, Smith and a shopworn Kovalev is enough to warrant picking him. I doubt he beats Kessler or even that version of B-Hop Calzaghe beat, let alone Joe himself.