Comments Thread For: Mayweather: McGregor Can't Even Win in His Sport and He's Talking Pacquiao!

[War Room]

Lol, so your argument that an MMA fighter cant beat a boxer is A) a drunk BJ Penn not even attempting to fight back and literally allowing someone to punch him in the face (at least you admit its a bad example) and B) you sucker punching random dudes in the street and not having to use "MMA" against again, random untrained dudes in the street.

Well **** now i'm convinced. Floyd could absolutely stop a double leg from a dude thats taken people down thousands of times, he could also check kicks and hang on the ground with BJJ black belts. Got it.

They never get a chance to get the double leg. You get punched the fcuk out way before you even get the leg up.

Sucker punch, what? Say the wrong words and you get knocked the fcuk out to your face while you lookin at me. What I'm gonna tell you hey man, I'm gonna punch you now? Run your mouth, get put to sleep. Thats how fighting works. You sound like one of these indoctrinated mma stans. Go post on sherdog or something.

[TMLT87]

They never get a chance to get the double leg. You get punched the fcuk out way before you even get the leg up.

And how does this work exactly on a technical level? how do you land the punch on someone that has trained thousands of hours to close distance in milliseconds while avoiding not only punches but also knees and kicks as they do it? they can shoot in from outside punching range, and put their head below punching range as they come in. What shot do you land on them?

Sucker punch, what? Say the wrong words and you get knocked the fcuk out to your face while you lookin at me. What I'm gonna tell you hey man, I'm gonna punch you now? Run your mouth, get put to sleep. Thats how fighting works.

Thats not my point, my point is thats not a FIGHT is it? ANYONE can get KTFO if they get sucker punched mid sentence. Its pretty meaningless and I dont see how it relates to being able to use boxing alone to beat an MMA fighter in an actual fight.

They never get a chance to get the double leg. You get punched the fcuk out way before you even get the leg up.

You're talking about boxers being able to land perfect one shot KO punches on a trained wrestler whos driving forward with his head down at hip level before he manages to close distance, like Jason ****ing Bourne. But yeah its me thats indoctrinated lol.

[andoxcv66]

what the **** are you talking about Floyd that your leftover taking another left over

Remember Floyd you run all night from Pacquiao. Don't forget that. As if you're talking that your destroyed Manny when in fact you were the one who run and ducked all night.

[Oldskoolg]

Sure, but if we are gonna bring weapons, multiple opponents etc etc into the equation its a pointless argument because an untrained person, a 90 year old or a woman could potentially beat the HW champion of the world under those circumstances. Its not really a "fight" anymore.



This is mostly bullshido like how wing chun and aikido guys think they're gonna do some ninja **** to stop takedowns etc. People naively think this stuff is gonna work against a high level grappler/MMA fighter when in reality they'll be on their back unable to move freely and the other guy will be in a far better position to do all of that **** to them.

If all that **** was legal in the UFC do you think it would put the guy that gets taken down and put on his back in a BETTER situation than hes in under current MMA rules? the more likely scenario is he gets ****ing maimed and the fight ends much, much quicker.



Not at all. It just requires a basic understanding of grappling. Come on man, its an extremely complex skillset designed to pin and restrain another trained grappler, limiting his range of motion etc so he cant escape and has little or no offensive options. How the **** is a completely untrained person going to somehow magically put themselves in a position where they could even attempt to apply these dirty techniques in the first place?

Its like saying a random dude off the street could beat a boxer if he hits below the belt, does spinning back fists and headbutts in the clinch.

You’re still stuck comparing sport and classical styles to actual combat and there are no rules to combat. I don’t think that’s a concept you are going to grasp until you find yourself either fighting for your life or seeing someone else do it. An MMA fighter would very quickly realize the real world doesn’t work like the octagon the first time he gets his eyes gouged or pulls guard and gets his head bashed on ten ground.

THERE ARE NO RULES IN THE REAL WORLD, kid. But hey, if it makes you feel tough to worship at the altar of Dana white and Conor McGregor you do that. For your sake I hope you never run into a situation on the real word wher your life needs to be fought for in true fight/flight/freeze. You’re going to shoot on someone as if it’s a wrestling match or a cage and run the risk of getting stomped to death or your neck snapped or a knife in the brain stem etc etc.
The real world ain’t no damn sanctioned match where there are rules just so that suburbanites can feel tough

[Stuart Chandler]

Floyd’s was a rich kid , had the best upbringing. He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and that’s why he acts the way he does like a spoiled brat .

[VashDBasher]

Gonna be funny once that low iq ****** mayweather is broke and McGregor a billionaire.

Not going to happen...

[TMLT87]

MMA fighter would very quickly realize the real world doesn’t work like the octagon the first time he gets his eyes gouged or pulls guard and gets his head bashed on ten ground.

Why the **** would an MMA fighter be pulling guard on a boxer? and even if they for some reason were arrogant/****** enough to do that, they arent just lying there leaving you with your hands free to unleash all this Mortal Kombat **** on them. Its constant head and wrist control, sweep and sub attempts etc. The average person with no experience would just flail around like a fish, compromise their balance and be swept and reversed within 30 seconds unless they had a significant size/strength advantage.

and why is this "street" situation of head bashing, biting, ball punching and eye gouging an alien concept to MMA fighters but apparently second nature to boxers? all of that dirty **** is obviously more applicable to MMAs skillset than boxings, some of it was actually legal in the Vale Tudo days.

THERE ARE NO RULES IN THE REAL WORLD, kid. But hey, if it makes you feel tough to worship at the altar of Dana white and Conor McGregor you do that. For your sake I hope you never run into a situation on the real word wher your life needs to be fought for in true fight/flight/freeze. You’re going to shoot on someone as if it’s a wrestling match or a cage and run the risk of getting stomped to death or your neck snapped or a knife in the brain stem etc etc.
The real world ain’t no damn sanctioned match where there are rules just so that suburbanites can feel tough

Nothing to do with worshipping anyone or feeling tough, I dont give a **** about Conor or Dana. You're talking about knives in the brain stem and ninja death touches and **** and clutching straws instead of just putting the tribalism away and accepting the basic common sense concept that a guy with no trained defense against takedowns, kicks, elbows, knees and jiu jitsu is not going to be able to reliably, consistently win a fight against someone that has trained that **** for years AND boxing too.

It is what it is man, now if we were talking about a boxer that has solid prior experience in wrestling/BJJ/kickboxing etc, or a boxer that took time to train and adapt first? different situation. Boxing is actually very important in MMA but you need to have the other skills to a decent enough degree that you can force people to box with you, a pure boxer does not have that.

[MusoMeanderings]

To effectively gouge an eye you have to be able to land a fist on your opponent's face first. So, an experienced boxer and especially a MMA fighter will have an upper hand on an untrained person who will try to resort to 'street' tactics.

But if we are talking about a person with a knife/other weapon, then it is a difficult situation to call.

[Fighter78]

Dustin Poirier is the second best lightweight fighter in the UFC and was lucky to get out of round one which is 5 minutes .

Conor McGregor was the first UFC fighter to hold Championship title belts in two different weight divisions at the same time by becoming the Lightweight Champion at UFC 205 in New York City. He was the Featherweight Champion before he became the Lightweight Champion.

Seems like you guys are upset Mayweather chose McGregor to pad his record before leaving boxing officially because he didn’t want to chance his 50th fight in his own sport .

Yea...he beat Eddie Alvarez for that lightweight belt....hardly a great champion lol...nice try

[muaythaidon1]

Why the **** would an MMA fighter be pulling guard on a boxer? and even if they for some reason were arrogant/****** enough to do that, they arent just lying there leaving you with your hands free to unleash all this Mortal Kombat **** on them. Its constant head and wrist control, sweep and sub attempts etc. The average person with no experience would just flail around like a fish, compromise their balance and be swept and reversed within 30 seconds unless they had a significant size/strength advantage.

and why is this "street" situation of head bashing, biting, ball punching and eye gouging an alien concept to MMA fighters but apparently second nature to boxers? all of that dirty **** is obviously more applicable to MMAs skillset than boxings, some of it was actually legal in the Vale Tudo days.



Nothing to do with worshipping anyone or feeling tough, I dont give a **** about Conor or Dana. You're talking about knives in the brain stem and ninja death touches and **** and clutching straws instead of just putting the tribalism away and accepting the basic common sense concept that a guy with no trained defense against takedowns, kicks, elbows, knees and jiu jitsu is not going to be able to reliably, consistently win a fight against someone that has trained that **** for years AND boxing too.

It is what it is man, now if we were talking about a boxer that has solid prior experience in wrestling/BJJ/kickboxing etc, or a boxer that took time to train and adapt first? different situation. Boxing is actually very important in MMA but you need to have the other skills to a decent enough degree that you can force people to box with you, a pure boxer does not have that.

I wouldn't waste my breath with that moron if I was you, if someone flippantly says all the boxer has the do is land a punch, as if one punch knock outs are so frequent then he's never boxed in his life, let alone trained MMA. What these boxers don't understand is if you don't knock the MMA fighter out with your first punch, and the MMA fighter gets into clinch distance or gets the double/single leg then the fight is 100% over. Whats more likely a punch from the gods that knocks the guy out cold, or the opponent getting into clinch range... Hmm hard one that.