Comments Thread For: Thurman To Arum: Stop Talking Sh-t! Not My Fault You Can't Afford Fight For Crawford

[Ake-Dawg]

Wilder Fury was a cherrypick. You sound ******. In what world is trying to force an obese man who hasn’t fought in 3 years straight into a fight with a champ not a cherry pick? Fury did right by managing to squeeze in 2 fights, but he still had to somehow get back into form within a year. That’s a cherrypick. I’m not bothering to read the rest of your drivel if you think that was some legitimate fight.

Learn about how the sport works, then you’d know that was grade-a, to the tee cherrypick. When you want your guy to win you pick’em when they’re weak.

Look whose emotional now.....

Maybe check the timeline of Wilder and Fury’s first conversation about fighting. Or the timeline of when Fury first started training for his comeback. It’s well over a year. Fury’s weight loss journey started December 2016 as evidenced by a tweet stating he was coming back late spring 2017. There are videos dating back to April 2017 of him in the gym training.

[Fighter78]

Lol....this dude talking like he undisputed champ or sumn

[Fighter78]

Look whose emotional now.....

Maybe check the timeline of Wilder and Fury’s first conversation about fighting. Or the timeline of when Fury first started training for his comeback. It’s well over a year. Fury’s weight loss journey started December 2016 as evidenced by a tweet stating he was coming back late spring 2017. There are videos dating back to April 2017 of him in the gym training.

It doesn't change the fact that that indeed was a cherry pick gone wrong..lolol. Tyson fury was a fat feather fisted pudding who won the title in what most deemed the most boring heavyweight title fight in the HISTORY of boxing. My dude....Deontay wilder tried to cherry pick and you know it.....the problem is they were BOTH bums but he was the bigger bum.

[Bronx2245]

Why do you keep mentioning Wilder-Fury like it wasn’t a cherrypick when we all wanted Wilder-Joshua? A good fight with a non-PBC fighter is a blue moon occurrence, like I said. You have to corner them or pull the wool over their eyes, get an upset when they think you are weak, shot and done like Fury did. GRJ’s best names are Lomachenko (TR) and Joseph Diaz (GBP), and like Jacobs he obviously doesn’t subscribe to the PBC route like Tank, Wilder, Spence, Charlo etc and this is evident in their records, fought no one of note outside of PBC. Don’t get all cringe on me neither, keep your emotions under control. The thing really hurting is the sport and fanboys like you aren’t helping.

No what's hurting the sport is when so-called fight fans are supporting the behavior of promoters like Bob Arum and Don King, because they gave us BIG FIGHTS, but consistently robbed their fighters!

[SplitSecond]

Look whose emotional now.....

Maybe check the timeline of Wilder and Fury’s first conversation about fighting. Or the timeline of when Fury first started training for his comeback. It’s well over a year. Fury’s weight loss journey started December 2016 as evidenced by a tweet stating he was coming back late spring 2017. There are videos dating back to April 2017 of him in the gym training.

When you say ****** sht you get called ******. It’s so you can adapt and hopefully stop being so ******. I’m looking out for you.

Fury was out of the ring nearly 3 years. How the hell would you think going from Wilder vs Joshua to Wilder vs a guy who hasn’t been in the ring since 2015 and was last seen 400lb’s, talking depression, suicide, drugs and drink who Wilder is fighting 4/5 Months after his first come back, NOT a cherrypick? In 2017 Fury was still fat. At least when he gets fat while active it’s mainly around the midsection and he has muscle underneath. He was blubber not long before Wilder, and he showed up out of shape in the first fight. And you can clearly see this in the rematch where he has much better balance and athleticism.

[SplitSecond]

No what's hurting the sport is when so-called fight fans are supporting the behavior of promoters like Bob Arum and Don King, because they gave us BIG FIGHTS, but consistently robbed their fighters!

Big fights are usually unifications or undisputed. Spence vs Crawford would be a big fight that would help boxing. Wilder vs Joshua would have been a big fight to help boxing. Arum, the guy supposedly killing boxing has unified Ramirez (TR) vs Hooker (DAZN), Put #1 130lb’er vs #1 135lb’er with Lomachenko (TR) vs Linares (GBP (Lomachenko’s first fight at the weight, no gauntlet to run or whatever other bullsht excuse), Unified Beterbiev vs Gvozdyk and has already stated Beterbiev is to unify with Bivol after his mandatory, is involved for undisputed at HW between Fury’s and Joshua’s megafight, just created undisputed at 135 with Lopez vs Lomachenko, and looks in line to create another star that will be involved in big fights. Creating actually proven fighters and he doesn’t have to dominate a division to have his fighters have decent records (outside of Spence/Thurman at welterweight and Charlo, the records of PBC fighters are pitiful).

Oh, the old fart hurting the sport will also soon have undisputed at 140lb’s with Taylor vs Ramirez.

[Ake-Dawg]

It doesn't change the fact that that indeed was a cherry pick gone wrong..lolol. Tyson fury was a fat feather fisted pudding who won the title in what most deemed the most boring heavyweight title fight in the HISTORY of boxing. My dude....Deontay wilder tried to cherry pick and you know it.....the problem is they were BOTH bums but he was the bigger bum.

Fact? It’s your opinion and you haven’t justified that opinion. Explain how a former unified world champ is a cherry? I’m not even a Fury fan but I recognize the big mans skills.

[Ake-Dawg]

When you say ****** sht you get called ******. It’s so you can adapt and hopefully stop being so ******. I’m looking out for you.

Fury was out of the ring nearly 3 years. How the hell would you think going from Wilder vs Joshua to Wilder vs a guy who hasn’t been in the ring since 2015 and was last seen 400lb’s, talking depression, suicide, drugs and drink who Wilder is fighting 4/5 Months after his first come back, NOT a cherrypick? In 2017 Fury was still fat. At least when he gets fat while active it’s mainly around the midsection and he has muscle underneath. He was blubber not long before Wilder, and he showed up out of shape in the first fight. And you can clearly see this in the rematch where he has much better balance and athleticism.

Two tune ups and well over a year to train. Those are the facts. Fury was 258 for his last tune up and 257 for the first fight. Out of shape? Nope. What made him a cherry again? Oh and he came in to the 2nd fight at 273, and fought a different style. Your better balance and athleticism comment is a stretch. He bullied Wilder plodding forward.

[Bronx2245]

Big fights are usually unifications or undisputed. Spence vs Crawford would be a big fight that would help boxing. Wilder vs Joshua would have been a big fight to help boxing. Arum, the guy supposedly killing boxing has unified Ramirez (TR) vs Hooker (DAZN), Put #1 130lb’er vs #1 135lb’er with Lomachenko (TR) vs Linares (GBP (Lomachenko’s first fight at the weight, no gauntlet to run or whatever other bullsht excuse), Unified Beterbiev vs Gvozdyk and has already stated Beterbiev is to unify with Bivol after his mandatory, is involved for undisputed at HW between Fury’s and Joshua’s megafight, just created undisputed at 135 with Lopez vs Lomachenko, and looks in line to create another star that will be involved in big fights. Creating actually proven fighters and he doesn’t have to dominate a division to have his fighters have decent records (outside of Spence/Thurman at welterweight and Charlo, the records of PBC fighters are pitiful).

Oh, the old fart hurting the sport will also soon have undisputed at 140lb’s with Taylor vs Ramirez.

Spence is a unified champion, and so is Jermell Charlo! Hopefully Castano beats Texieira, so we easily get a fight for undisputed at 154! Meanwhile, over at Top Rank, we have yet another superstar being disrespected by "The Ol' Fart!"

Terence Crawford discusses rift with Bob Arum, future at Top Rank or elsewhere

November 19, 2021:

The Crawford-Top Rank relationship hasn’t been glued together, not judging by what Crawford said to SiriusXM hosts Ak and Barak during a Wednesday chat. The WBO titlist told the duo he didn’t want to touch “the Bob Arum situation.” They knew it had to be addressed, though.

“It pissed me off,” Crawford admitted. “I am one of the most loyalest, to the core, and for him to go out and say some foolish **** like that, it made me just look at him a whole totally different way.”

“I always took pay cuts,” said Crawford, who is guaranteed $3.5 million per fight on his Top Rank deal, which was extended in 2018. “I took pay cuts for the Viktor Postol fight. ... They never really promoted that fight.” He denigrated Top Rank saying that they had to “budget,” and telling him they didn’t think that Crawford-Postol would do well.

The boxer also asserted favoritism. He thought Top Rank did a poor job promoting his April 2019 contest against Amir Khan, didn’t even start pushing it until the week before the bout. He had no posters, ESPN wasn’t pushing it, and that is in contrast to other Top Rank PPVs, which he asserted, “was months in advance” for the promotional hype. Vasiliy Lomachenko would fight on ESPN, he would fight on pay-per-view, and he thought Loma would get more of a push. Loma ads would be on PlayStation and Hulu, and he didn’t see the same for him...

They read out an excerpt from what Arum had said about Bud, and how he’d lost money on Crawford’s fights.

“That’s cool, that’s cool, if that’s what he said. If Arum feels that way, then he can release me now,” dared Crawford. “I’m not an asset your company, release me right now. You don’t have to wait for after a Spence fight. Release me now. If I am such a loss or a headache — shiiiiit.”

https://www.badlefthook.com/2020/11/...xing-news-2020

Bob Arum On How Much He’s Willing To Pay Shawn Porter In Possible Terence Crawford Clash: “I’m Not Guaranteeing More Than A Million Dollars, I’m Just Not”

January 16, 2021:

With a wide variety of championship bouts at his disposal, Porter expressed a desire to take on WBO belt holder Terence Crawford. However, with Arum offering Porter only one million dollars for his services, the former champions balked at the offer, claiming that it was somewhat of a slap in the face. To Arum, on the other hand, he simply doesn’t understand how Porter, or anyone for that matter, could scoff at the possibility of pocketing a cool million dollars.

“I read someplace that he felt that I insulted him by only offering him a million dollars,” said Arum during a recent interview with Barbershop Conversations. “I’m old fashion, I don’t know why a million dollars would be an insult to anybody...”

Although his time in the ring against Crawford was a short one, Brook was reportedly paid two million dollars for his efforts, making Arum’s one million dollar offer to Porter an even bigger insult according to the rugged contender.

https://www.*************.com/headli...s-im-just-not/

Same "Old" Story, different fighter!

[MeanestNiceGuy]

Keith Thurman is having trouble coming to terms that he is now a Gate-Keeper.

A gate keeper after 1 loss?!

Hardly.

Thing is, most boxing "fans" are impatient and tend to side with whoever's most popular. Spence (and his supporters) is basically telling people to "forget" about Thurman but Thurman's done just about as much as Spence has. They both have common opponents (Garcia & Porter) but Keith still has the Pac fight over Spence's head....the fight Spence wants.

Just because Thurman lost one fight and hasn't fought Spence, doesn't make him a gate keeper or irrelevant. I'm not saying these are your sentiments, but that's what I've observed.

Granted, his career has been riddled with injuries but he's also made some big fights at welterweight (Garcia, Porter and Pac).