How can people seriously believe Pacquiao is greater than Floyd

[blowblow]

I like Pac but he's no where near floyd, every fight which made him so popular was a cherry pick at a catch weight. It's funny how when he was fighting fighters who weren't weight drained he never knocked them out or did to them what he did with a weight drained de la hoya and the rest of the victims. He used to be in wars against the Barrera's and Marqueze's...we all know what JMM did to him, Floyd beat him easily too. Like I said his fame started when he fought oscar,clottey,margarito,cotto etc..did he fight Cotto for the 154 belt at a catch weight too? Pac is alright, but we all know when he fought fighters in their natural division and a proper weight there were no knock outs, the opposite..he nearly died against JMM.

you like pac but you tell contrary to your post. well played.

[blowblow]

OK, but even if we go with your criteria, there's a strong case for Pacquiao.... IMO their resumes are dead even, which is the only reason why I'd say the 8-division record puts Pacquiao's legacy over the top.

For example, what are these three definitive Floyd wins that are more impressive than anything Pac ever did? Hernandez & Corrales? Canelo? Gatti??? Are those really better than Pac's stoppages of true ATGs in Barrera and Morales or his W over Thurman at 40 (when/how, right)? Mentioning Floyd's h2h win over Pac would make sense, but the "how" & past prime factors rob it of some luster imo.

You may turn to the common argument that Manny only beat the **** out of Oscar, Cotto and Margarito due to catchweights, but this logic could also be applied to some of Floyd's best performances, like Canelo, Marquez, or Hatton... I've never understood that one.

But anyway, my point is that it's ridiculous & irrational to say "it is not really that close at all," especially if your argument is based on body of work... You'd do better to focus on Floyd's superior BOXING skills, trickier style & ability to avoid getting hit & dropped because there's no debate as to who was superior in that department.

Any argument that says EITHER guy is substantially greater than the other reeks of fandom/feelings and cannot be taken seriously... They are the 1a and 1b greats of the last two decades in no particular order and the order will ALWAYS be debated because they never fought each other in their primes and their resumes are just that close.

finally the one with a sense and non biased post.

[hugh grant]

There are people On earth that think the earth is flat. They’re just as delusional as the people that think Floyd lost to manny.

The only difference is they are just confused. You guys are lying through your teeth.

But even if you really think Floyd won. What is the real reason you didn't think rematch was warranted?

[blowblow]

But even if you really think Floyd won. What is the real reason you didn't think rematch was warranted?

because floyd don't want to go through hell again. that is the first time i saw the so-called best defensive boxer running and step backing so wide. comparing it to his previous bouts he wasn't like that to the point where his father told him he fought scared and behind on points.

[hugh grant]

because floyd don't want to go through hell again. that is the first time i saw the so-called best defensive boxer running and step backing so wide. comparing it to his previous bouts he wasn't like that to the point where his father told him he fought scared and behind on points.

Yes, he didn't look like he was aiming to ko Pac like he predicted he would.
In a rematch Floyd could have addressed criticisms and went for ko

[aboutfkntime]

canelo will get murdered if he fought pac back then.

then why didn't Pac chase that fight?... he never mentioned Canelo once

don't be ridiculous... Pac wanted nothing to do with a Cotto rematch at 150, no way he was going anywhere near Canelo

[aboutfkntime]

OK, but even if we go with your criteria, there's a strong case for Pacquiao.... IMO their resumes are dead even, which is the only reason why I'd say the 8-division record puts Pacquiao's legacy over the top.

For example, what are these three definitive Floyd wins that are more impressive than anything Pac ever did? Hernandez & Corrales? Canelo? Gatti??? Are those really better than Pac's stoppages of true ATGs in Barrera and Morales or his W over Thurman at 40 (when/how, right)? Mentioning Floyd's h2h win over Pac would make sense, but the "how" & past prime factors rob it of some luster imo.

You may turn to the common argument that Manny only beat the **** out of Oscar, Cotto and Margarito due to catchweights, but this logic could also be applied to some of Floyd's best performances, like Canelo, Marquez, or Hatton... I've never understood that one.

But anyway, my point is that it's ridiculous & irrational to say "it is not really that close at all," especially if your argument is based on body of work... You'd do better to focus on Floyd's superior BOXING skills, trickier style & ability to avoid getting hit & dropped because there's no debate as to who was superior in that department.

Any argument that says EITHER guy is substantially greater than the other reeks of fandom/feelings and cannot be taken seriously... They are the 1a and 1b greats of the last two decades in no particular order and the order will ALWAYS be debated because they never fought each other in their primes and their resumes are just that close.

no, there is not... and I clearly explained why

* Mayweather has three wins better than anyone on Pac's resume
* Mayweather also has a better body-of-work
* Mayweather beat Pacquiao
* Mayweather retired undefeated... Pacquiao got KTFO numerous times

Mayweather has better wins... nobody beat more world-champions than Mayweather... he beat Pacquiao head-to-head... and despite facing better competition than Pac, Mayweather retired undefeated

FACT: above 130, Pacquiao only fought the best ONCE... and he LOST!!

it is not really that close at all... only the fanboys think that

[djtmal]

no, there is not... and I clearly explained why





Mayweather has better wins... nobody beat more world-champions than Mayweather... he beat Pacquiao head-to-head... and despite facing better competition than Pac, Mayweather retired undefeated

FACT: above 130, Pacquiao only fought the best ONCE... and he LOST!!

it is not really that close at all... only the fanboys think that

Beating more paper champs than anybody only sounds good in Floyd boy land.

How many all time great fighters Floyd beat in their prime and the whole room thins out.

[aboutfkntime]

Beating more paper champs than anybody only sounds good in Floyd boy land.

How many all time great fighters Floyd beat in their prime and the whole room thins out.

apparently, you saw what you wanted to see

try again

* Mayweather has three wins better than anyone on Pac's resume
* Mayweather also has a better body-of-work
* Mayweather beat Pacquiao
* Mayweather retired undefeated... Pacquiao got KTFO numerous times

it is not really that close at all... only the fanboys think that

[QueensburyRules]

because floyd don't want to go through hell again. that is the first time i saw the so-called best defensive boxer running and step backing so wide. comparing it to his previous bouts he wasn't like that to the point where his father told him he fought scared and behind on points.

- -TBE TUE crack daddy put put the fear of God in him if he fight Manny.