Bob Arum: Keith Thurman Reps Reached Out Again Recently

[RuleOfTheSpear]

Bomac will avoid this fight. As usual.

Move along. There's nothing to see here.

[_Rexy_]

I don't think Porter had any trouble making weight lately. He's been with his S&C coach and has done fine. He had that one slip up against Ugas and his performance wasn't the best either but Ugas is legit himself. No shame in being in a competitive bout with him.

Good to hear that Keith is in the gym. Dude admitted he almost got to 200 pounds at one fight in between fights. That's terrible and he's been a WW his entire career.

I thought he had issues with the Spence fight too, if not then my bad lol. Hard to remember with this damn lockdown

[KTFOKING]

I thought he had issues with the Spence fight too, if not then my bad lol. Hard to remember with this damn lockdown

Oh no, he was fit and didn't have trouble on the scales for that fight. Now, he's also been a life long JMW and WW while fighting at 165 in the amateurs so I'm sure it's not easy for him to make the weight, but against Ugas he REALLY had trouble making weight.

I'd guess majority of the people would make Porter a favorite over Thurman at this point. But it would still be competitive and likely come down to the last few rounds.

[MPDKSAB]

They not gonna tell you when dudes got nothing to lose all of a sudden they want certain fights they weren't that adamant about before.

[_Rexy_]

Oh no, he was fit and didn't have trouble on the scales for that fight. Now, he's also been a life long JMW and WW while fighting at 165 in the amateurs so I'm sure it's not easy for him to make the weight, but against Ugas he REALLY had trouble making weight.

I'd guess majority of the people would make Porter a favorite over Thurman at this point. But it would still be competitive and likely come down to the last few rounds.

Yeah, people don't understand amateur weight classes are different lol. I fought at 178 and 200. No in between classes in the Ams. In HW I was around 185 fighting guys as light as 180 and as heavy as 199.

Porter was a football player in HS if I'm not mistaken, and cut a decent amount of muscle before turning pro.

[SplitSecond]

I think negotiations are done in one day? Huh? Where did you get that from?

Great, Crawford/Porter is a really good fight too. This is the fight that should happen if Spence/Pacquiao happens.

But if Spence/Porter II happens next, would the Thurman fight still not make any sense to you? Who does Crawford fight in the meantime?

I don’t even know. In retrospect I need to take a step back. You’re right in everything you’ve said. This fight would be a good opportunity for Crawford to show his own drawing potential. Even if not PPV, the fight does big ratings.

[Ray*]

Thurman should DEFINITELY get double what Brook got. A fight against Thurman would be on PPV and Thurman has proven to do big ratings and gate numbers against other top fighters.

And fyi, Thurman said he never asked for 10M and doesn't know where the hell that came from...It came from Moretti, who sent BoMac a text that Thurman is asking for 10M...It was first said he was asking for 5M and then it got changed to 10M.

Porter said it on his podcast that if they just want to offer him a million or two million, then he's just going to try to get the Spence fight since he knows he will be treated better there. I'm sorry, but you aren't going to be able to get someone like Thurman or Porter for just a million or two million when they are making more than that as it is and will make much more than that against Spence. If Arum does not want to risk it putting it on PPV and potentially lose money, then he needs to just let Crawford go and then I'm sure PBC would have no problem putting that fight on PPV.

(1) Like I said even if they offered him double he wouldn’t fight.

(2) What number did he claim he asked for then? As a PBC boxer am definitely thinking the number isn’t far from the truth.

(3) Porter is a mandatory, he can always let the fight go to pursue bid, make an offer to the champ and host the fight on their end. Which they aren’t going to do but he too wants money that they cannot generate from the other side.

So unless Keef is going to take 1.5m guarantee and an upside in PPV, which is what PBC does with most of their boxer. Why would Keef get a lot more money than he earned in a PBC card?

[Ray*]

Keith never asked for that amount of money and already set the record straight on that, stop being manipulated by spinmaster Arum.

Manipulated by Arum? Where do you get that from? Keef set that straight? When he was manipulating you how much did he tell you that he asked for?

[KTFOKING]

(1) Like I said even if they offered him double he wouldn’t fight.

(2) What number did he claim he asked for then? As a PBC boxer am definitely thinking the number isn’t far from the truth.

(3) Porter is a mandatory, he can always let the fight go to pursue bid, make an offer to the champ and host the fight on their end. Which they aren’t going to do but he too wants money that they cannot generate from the other side.

So unless Keef is going to take 1.5m guarantee and an upside in PPV, which is what PBC does with most of their boxer. Why would Keef get a lot more money than he earned in a PBC card?

I mean I guess it is possible he did, but he claims to never have done so.

Porter isn't take 25% of the purse. That is silly. While you say he can just enforce his mandatory, he can do that but why? Why can't they just give him a good offer for the fight? Don't give 5M to Khan and 2M to Brook and then say Porter should only get 1-2M. If Arum is truly losing THAT much money, then just move on from Crawford. He's never getting a big money fight like this.

Who said that is what they do? Copppinger and Idec both mentioned that Spence was guaranteed 8.5M and Mikey was guaranteed 8M for their fight. Where was it that they only get 1.5M plus upside? That is actually something Arum has brought up saying that's what fighters should do and the promoter wouldn't lose any money. And it makes some sense for sure. But I'm sure Thurman can fight Danny or Porter in a rematch and make more than 1.5M.

[Ray*]

I mean I guess it is possible he did, but he claims to never have done so.

Porter isn't take 25% of the purse. That is silly. While you say he can just enforce his mandatory, he can do that but why? Why can't they just give him a good offer for the fight? Don't give 5M to Khan and 2M to Brook and then say Porter should only get 1-2M. If Arum is truly losing THAT much money, then just move on from Crawford. He's never getting a big money fight like this.

Who said that is what they do? Copppinger and Idec both mentioned that Spence was guaranteed 8.5M and Mikey was guaranteed 8M for their fight. Where was it that they only get 1.5M plus upside? That is actually something Arum has brought up saying that's what fighters should do and the promoter wouldn't lose any money. And it makes some sense for sure. But I'm sure Thurman can fight Danny or Porter in a rematch and make more than 1.5M.

Show me where both Garcia and Spence were guaranteed 8m before PPV upsides.

Again Porter is the mandatory, enforce it. It’s pretty simple. Don’t look at what Khan or Brook was paid. Look at what you can generate and then you see what percentage you can derive from a title fight.

I guess Porter doesn’t want that belt. I see how he never talks about what he was paid in a PBC fight. But he now want to speak about how much he should be paid in another promotion fight?

Again let his promoter or powerful adviser off Bud his minimum and trigger the title fight on PBC/Fox or whatever, and then he can asked for whatever from PBC... Problem solved