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  • Thuglife Nelo
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    #31
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    you don't have gauze around your wrist, muppet

    and you can have as much tape/bandage around your wrist as you want, in ANY state

    stop talking shlt, Tony Baloney
    TonyGE is a PAC fanatic so he’s getting a taste of his medicine and theory. A lot of these guys don’t know the sport because they don’t box themselves and have not dealt with hand injuries personally. ANY GUY who boxes on the regular always hopes and finds a way to wrap his hands the best way he can so he can leave the gym with no injury... why?!?! Because we love to hit the bag onto the next the day! A hand injury can linger in various lengths, and many times we hide minor injuries knowing that if you don’t let something heal you do more damage than good. That’s the nature and culture of boxing.

    As Duran (Stitch) says, rewrapping hands is just to get into a fighters’ head so that they don’t feel comfortable throwing their best shots knowing that if they have a lingering injury, there’s risk in the real fight. That’s all it is.

    The problem with boxing is that “cheating” and “advantage” has become synonymous without proper context.

    Jamie Moore felt so salty that he agreed to not even use tape their way when Team Canelo flexed their locker room. Moore didn’t even know how to defend Fielding’s hand safety to say this:


    “They were wrapping the tape numerous times round the wrist and hand. It’s stacking, you’re not allowed to do it. We raised it as an issue, the [New York State Athletic] Commission agreed, said, ‘No, you’re right, you can’t do it.’ I sent Nige in and Nige got there, they’d already done it. So made them take it off, said you’re not allowed to do that.

    “The commission agreed to take it off and then they done it again. No, take it off again. So they started going crazy. Sent five people into my room saying take the tape off his hand, I said no problem, I don’t want tape on.

    “We knew we were going to walk into those sort of situations when we were coming here so we weren’t surprised.”

    Lol. It’s no wonder Canelo threw rocket launchers to really hurt Fielding. Canelo didn’t even smile or acknowledge Fielding when they hugged when the fight ended. Canelo was still pissed over wraps. Fielding knew his team went in betch mode and he even cried on IFLTV. He felt ashamed that he was rocked while his team cried about nothing.
    Last edited by Thuglife Nelo; 01-10-2021, 02:47 AM.

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      #32
      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
      you don't have gauze around your wrist, muppet

      and you can have as much tape/bandage around your wrist as you want, in ANY state

      stop talking shlt, Tony Baloney
      Quite right!!

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      • Roadblock
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        #33
        They chose Texas because it was only place arum could buy El Cheato a boxing license, he was refused every where else.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo
          TonyGE is a PAC fanatic so he’s getting a taste of his medicine and theory. A lot of these guys don’t know the sport because they don’t box themselves and have not dealt with hand injuries personally. ANY GUY who boxes on the regular always hopes and finds a way to wrap his hands the best way he can so he can leave the gym with no injury... why?!?! Because we love to hit the bag onto the next the day! A hand injury can linger in various lengths, and many times we hide minor injuries knowing that if you don’t let something heal you do more damage than good. That’s the nature and culture of boxing.

          As Duran (Stitch) says, rewrapping hands is just to get into a fighters’ head so that they don’t feel comfortable throwing their best shots knowing that if they have a lingering injury, there’s risk in the real fight. That’s all it is.

          The problem with boxing is that “cheating” and “advantage” has become synonymous without proper context.

          Jamie Moore felt so salty that he agreed to not even use tape their way when Team Canelo flexed their locker room. Moore didn’t even know how to defend Fielding’s hand safety to say this:


          “They were wrapping the tape numerous times round the wrist and hand. It’s stacking, you’re not allowed to do it. We raised it as an issue, the [New York State Athletic] Commission agreed, said, ‘No, you’re right, you can’t do it.’ I sent Nige in and Nige got there, they’d already done it. So made them take it off, said you’re not allowed to do that.

          “The commission agreed to take it off and then they done it again. No, take it off again. So they started going crazy. Sent five people into my room saying take the tape off his hand, I said no problem, I don’t want tape on.

          “We knew we were going to walk into those sort of situations when we were coming here so we weren’t surprised.”

          Lol. It’s no wonder Canelo threw rocket launchers to really hurt Fielding. Canelo didn’t even smile or acknowledge Fielding when they hugged when the fight ended. Canelo was still pissed over wraps. Fielding knew his team went in betch mode and he even cried on IFLTV. He felt ashamed that he was rocked while his team cried about nothing.
          It’s not about nothing and there is good reason why the practice is illegal in most states. Betch mode is making the holder of the title you are challenging for jump through hoops to satisfy the princesses weight demands.

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          • Thuglife Nelo
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            #35
            Originally posted by 4truth
            It’s not about nothing and there is good reason why the practice is illegal in most states. Betch mode is making the holder of the title you are challenging for jump through hoops to satisfy the princesses weight demands.
            what is illegal? You dummies can’t even understand that if some states allow it, how does it constitute “cheating?” You guys don’t box!

            Punching trajectory is forward, not on top of the hands. No boxer hits with an outward slap. “Stacking” simply means tape layered over the top of the hand. You dummies have to figure out how a couple of centimeters is an advantage! Hence tape first! This isn’t plaster or Paris on the folded gauze that goes on top of the knuckles. Again, X crossing tape on top of the hand is to ensure the metacarpals are strict to a certain place on impact. As an opposing team you want to try and enforce the least amount of protection for your opponent, especially when there’s rumors that he may have an injury.

            With Abel Sanchez he simply didn’t want any ADVANTAGE for Canelo to protect his hands.

            Many of you guys are subtextually crying about hand protection.

            For anyone to not complain about the inconsistencies of states means you’re acknowledging two things: 1.) that you’re claiming all Nevada and Texas combat fights have cheating, and 2.) that some states differ in hand protection! Lol

            You guys don’t know what you’re complaining about because you don’t box yourselves so you run with ideas that are spewed on the net

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              #36
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime
              you don't have gauze around your wrist, muppet

              and you can have as much tape/bandage around your wrist as you want, in ANY state

              stop talking shlt, Tony Baloney
              First you are strictly limited to the amount of tape you can use in all jurisdictions. Secondly you are limited to the amount of gauze you can use. Thirdly you are an idiot. Nevada which is the jurisdiction that the the controversy erupted on has rules on the amount of tape that can be used in total for wrapping your hands.


              This is what Sanchez had to say about it.

              What I will say is that there is rules in their bylaws that says that you’re allowed to use a maximum of 12 feet of two-inch tape, which in turn would be 24 [feet] of one-inch tape. If you look at the video where I protested, they used a whole roll on the first layer, which is 30 feet. And they used another roll on top of it, which is another 30 feet. So to me, that’s more close to 50, 60 feet. I am questioning that and [promoter] Tom [Loeffler] and I had discussions about that with Mr. Bennett. I want those rules followed. We’re gonna follow the rules.”

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              • Thuglife Nelo
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                #37
                Originally posted by TonyGe
                First you are strictly limited to the amount of tape you can use in all jurisdictions. Secondly you are limited to the amount of gauze you can use. Thirdly you are an idiot. Nevada which is the jurisdiction that the the controversy erupted on has rules on the amount of tape that can be used in total for wrapping your hands.


                This is what Sanchez had to say about it.

                What I will say is that there is rules in their bylaws that says that you’re allowed to use a maximum of 12 feet of two-inch tape, which in turn would be 24 [feet] of one-inch tape. If you look at the video where I protested, they used a whole roll on the first layer, which is 30 feet. And they used another roll on top of it, which is another 30 feet. So to me, that’s more close to 50, 60 feet. I am questioning that and [promoter] Tom [Loeffler] and I had discussions about that with Mr. Bennett. I want those rules followed. We’re gonna follow the rules.”
                Stop crying.

                Golovkin’s promoter Tom Loeffler said that those specific rules regarding hand wraps are subject to interpretation, but given the commission’s stance, they’ll let go of the issue.

                “We read that and interpreted it one way and they interpreted it another,” Loeffler said.

                Obviously the fight was allowed to proceed, but in anticipation of this issue arising once again for the May 5 rematch, representatives from both teams met with NSAC officials to discuss the topic. Ultimately Anthony Marnell, the chairman of the commission, and executive director Bob Bennett ruled that the method of wrapping Canelo’s hands are in fact permissible under their rules (NAC 467.432).

                Bob Bennett gets consulting directly from Stitch Duran on the subject too

                NAC 467.432  Requirements for bandages for hands of unarmed combatant. (NRS 467.030)
                1.  Bandages on each hand of an unarmed combatant are restricted to soft gauze cloth that is not more than 2 inches in width and 40 yards in length, including the knuckle pad, held in place by surgeon’s tape that is not more than 2 inches in width and not more than 15 yards in length. The knuckle pad may be folded, but must not be rolled or twisted. The tape must be placed at least three-fourths of an inch away from the knuckles when the hand is clenched into a fist. Either gauze or tape, but not both, not more than 1 inch in width may be placed between the fingers to secure the knuckle pad.
                2.  An unarmed combatant must have his or her hands wrapped and bandages adjusted in the dressing room in the presence of a representative of the Commission and both unarmed combatants. Either unarmed combatant may waive his or her privilege of witnessing the bandaging of his or her opponent’s hands.

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                • aboutfkntime
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by TonyGe
                  First you are strictly limited to the amount of tape you can use in all jurisdictions. Secondly you are limited to the amount of gauze you can use. Thirdly you are an idiot. Nevada which is the jurisdiction that the the controversy erupted on has rules on the amount of tape that can be used in total for wrapping your hands.


                  This is what Sanchez had to say about it.

                  What I will say is that there is rules in their bylaws that says that you’re allowed to use a maximum of 12 feet of two-inch tape, which in turn would be 24 [feet] of one-inch tape. If you look at the video where I protested, they used a whole roll on the first layer, which is 30 feet. And they used another roll on top of it, which is another 30 feet. So to me, that’s more close to 50, 60 feet. I am questioning that and [promoter] Tom [Loeffler] and I had discussions about that with Mr. Bennett. I want those rules followed. We’re gonna follow the rules.”





                  clown-boy... you said that gauze kept your wrist firm

                  It holds the wrist in place so it doesn't flex as much on impact.




                  stop talking shlt Tony Baloney

                  you wouldn't know a good fighter if he walked up and punched you in the face

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                  • 4truth
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo
                    what is illegal? You dummies can’t even understand that if some states allow it, how does it constitute “cheating?” You guys don’t box!

                    Punching trajectory is forward, not on top of the hands. No boxer hits with an outward slap. “Stacking” simply means tape layered over the top of the hand. You dummies have to figure out how a couple of centimeters is an advantage! Hence tape first! This isn’t plaster or Paris on the folded gauze that goes on top of the knuckles. Again, X crossing tape on top of the hand is to ensure the metacarpals are strict to a certain place on impact. As an opposing team you want to try and enforce the least amount of protection for your opponent, especially when there’s rumors that he may have an injury.

                    With Abel Sanchez he simply didn’t want any ADVANTAGE for Canelo to protect his hands.

                    Many of you guys are subtextually crying about hand protection.

                    For anyone to not complain about the inconsistencies of states means you’re acknowledging two things: 1.) that you’re claiming all Nevada and Texas combat fights have cheating, and 2.) that some states differ in hand protection! Lol

                    You guys don’t know what you’re complaining about because you don’t box yourselves so you run with ideas that are spewed on the net
                    I understand fine thanks. You don’t seem to.
                    You are creating a cast with the layering of tape and gauze. You are causing that area which is covered by this cast to become rigid. No, it isn’t covering the knuckles, I didn’t say it did.

                    Yes, this cast protects the hands very well. This cast eliminates the flex that naturally occurs in your fist when you strike something.

                    It is against the rules most places for a reason.

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                    • Thuglife Nelo
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by 4truth
                      I understand fine thanks. You don’t seem to.
                      You are creating a cast with the layering of tape and gauze. You are causing that area which is covered by this cast to become rigid. No, it isn’t covering the knuckles, I didn’t say it did.

                      Yes, this cast protects the hands very well. This cast eliminates the flex that naturally occurs in your fist when you strike something.

                      It is against the rules most places for a reason.
                      No, you’re still being ******. Stitch Duran has covered all combat sports as the elite go to guy for stars in Boxing and MMA. He has traveled worldwide and various states as a cornerman. His methods vary, and is a Vegas pimp. This would mean to say that Duran has cheated combat sports with all stars and vouched that there was nothing wrong with Canelo’s wraps.

                      YOU HAVE TO prove why “stacking” is cheating when defacto states allow it. In other words, some of you can’t handle the truth that protecting the hands should be fine. If you want to call that “cheating.”

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