Does Floyd have a single win as good as Pac’s win over Bradley?

[blowblow]

His win over paquaio?

how? by running and hugging all night?

[Fire4231]

dumbass, any time I see some jackball who thinks their posts matter enough to be in all bold, I skip it like probably most

More bold ****a for you not too read. Don’t ever call anyone else dumb. You are trying to make a case that guy B is better than guy A because he fought Guy C? All the while Guy A ****ed up Guy B head to head. You are a ****ing idiot. Who in there right mind thought you had a case?

Bet you also walk around the block to for the shortest path to the house next store. Have a bridge for sale...

[Rockin']

Have the short buses been equipped with computers and wi-fi or something? .........Rockin'

[Roadblock]

I didn’t think Bradley beat JMM.

Pacquiao is a better win. Ring #1 ranked contender at 147. #3 P4P.

The “green” Canelo is a better win. Ring champion at 154 and #9 P4P.

Mosley is a better win. 147 Lineal champion, #2 ranked at WW. #3 P4P.

Cotto is better. #1 ranked at 154.

DLH. The Ring #3 at 154.

JMM. #2 P4P

Genaro Hernandez. 130 Lineal champ. Oddsmakers had this match even.

Hatton. Ring/Lineal champ at 140. #8 P4P. Mayweather was also only a 2-1 favorite. Fans forget Hatton was seen as a live dog for Mayweather.

Corrales was #1 ranked at 130 by The Ring and P4P #5. Oddsmakers saw this as a 50-50 fight.

Bradley also never beat the man of 140-147. He was never the man to beat.

Floyd beat the man of a division several times, and was in a couple fights where the winner becomes the man of the division.

Hernandez @ 130
Castillo (vacant lineal) @ 135
Baldomir @ 147
Mosley @ 147
Canelo (vacant) @ 154

Too many truths in your post for the idiots to address .

[The D3vil]

Yet he's still an elite welter today. both Bud and Spence want his belt in 2021? how exactly didn't his style last very long?

Manny's style today isn't what it was in 2009

Just like Muhammad Ali's style wasn't in 1974, when he beat Foreman as it was in 1964 when he beat Sonny Liston.

The great ones sometimes can readjust.

Just watch the Manny Pacquiao that wiped out Oscar De La Hoya and tell me that's the same fighter you say in 2015 when he fought Floyd.

Floyd's style of being a patient defensive counter puncher is a better aging style, just like Bernard Hopkins' style allowed him to last longer.

Floyd beat Manny and he is better, Floyd also beat better versions of Oscar Cotto Hatton and Mosley, also schooled the guy that KOed Manny .

But here's what you forget.

Floyd's a lot bigger than Manny and always has been.

Floyd was fighting at 130 at 19 years old

Manny was fighting at 112 at 19 years old.

Can you image Chocolatito fighting Oscar De La Hoya? Miguel Cotto? Rickey Hatton? Shane Mosley?

Obviously not.

What Manny has done has never been done before and probably will never be done again in our lifetime, so much so that if "Monster" Inoue was somehow able to be great up to 130lbs, we'd call him one of the greatest fighters who ever lived.

Manny's done that and kept going to the point that he's the only 4x welterweight champion in history and became the 154lb. champion. Ridiculous.

What the Floyd stans don't realize is that by merely being competitive with Floyd, Manny's showing how great he is as no one who started where he did in history would even be able to have fought the same people as Floyd, much less be in a competitive fight with him.

[The D3vil]

you cant use that excuse man, Manny is literally still a world champion as of now while Floyd is long retired..so yea that doesnt work here

Ali was shot and had parkinson when Holmes beat him, he was shot when ho lost to Spinks..He beat Fraizer 2 times and beat Norton..so that also doesnt work..fact is Floyd was the better boxer and proved it head to head while they both were p4p #1 and #2 and ww's #1 and #2 and unified titles...

Manny's style isn't the same.

Ali's style before Parkinsons wasn't the same against Frazier in any of their fights as it was against Cleveland Williams and Sonny Liston.

That's what all-time greats do. Change their style.

Michael Jordan wasn't the same player in the championship years in the late '90s as he was in the late '80s when he was running the length of the court & winning dunk contests.

Same with Bernard Hopkins.

Just because Manny's so great he can still compete at 40 years old doesn't mean that he's the same fighter.

Fact is, Floyd was supposed to beat the much smaller man and the fact that the much smaller man was able to be competitive with him for 12 rounds is a testament to him.

Just like Duran versus Hagler.

Duran's the best 135lber ever (arguably) and didn't embarrass against the best 160lber in modern history.

That's why Duran is generally more highly regarded. even though he lost a clear decision.

[Roadblock]

Manny's style today isn't what it was in 2009

Just like Muhammad Ali's style wasn't in 1974, when he beat Foreman as it was in 1964 when he beat Sonny Liston.

The great ones sometimes can readjust.

Just watch the Manny Pacquiao that wiped out Oscar De La Hoya and tell me that's the same fighter you say in 2015 when he fought Floyd.

Floyd's style of being a patient defensive counter puncher is a better aging style, just like Bernard Hopkins' style allowed him to last longer.



But here's what you forget.

Floyd's a lot bigger than Manny and always has been.

Floyd was fighting at 130 at 19 years old

Manny was fighting at 112 at 19 years old.

Can you image Chocolatito fighting Oscar De La Hoya? Miguel Cotto? Rickey Hatton? Shane Mosley?

Obviously not.

What Manny has done has never been done before and probably will never be done again in our lifetime, so much so that if "Monster" Inoue was somehow able to be great up to 130lbs, we'd call him one of the greatest fighters who ever lived.

Manny's done that and kept going to the point that he's the only 4x welterweight champion in history and became the 154lb. champion. Ridiculous.

What the Floyd stans don't realize is that by merely being competitive with Floyd, Manny's showing how great he is as no one who started where he did in history would even be able to have fought the same people as Floyd, much less be in a competitive fight with him.

I didnt read it all just addressing the size will have a look at the rest later I gotta run, Floyd is not a lot bigger than Manny , Floyd Manny JMM from 130 to 147 are all within 4lbs fight night weight from each other across 4 divisions, its easy to check .

Im not talking height reach or anything other than weight, boxing is about weight and the same weight can be packaged like a brick, or a bean pole, and any shape in between.

Big Floyd is a fallacy, its contrived by haters attempting to make him as big as can be "the monster weight bully", so to take as much as possible away from his wins, Floyd gave weight away to near 90% of his resume.

Anybody wants debate the size start a thread about.

[ADP02]

So you don't give Pacquiao full credit for Cotto too then.

Canelo cried about it BEFORE signing the contract and cried during his training period. Canelo went as far as to say that trying to make weight was the WORST part about his training. Most people saw it at the weigh in. Canelo was sitting down all drained. Floyd's camp said it too during the interviews. LOL

Cotto was questioned too. He said, while laughing it off that, his weight will be pretty much the same as when he fought in his previous fight since he had come down to 146lbs. At the weighin Cotto said that he is too big and too strong for Manny.

[hugh grant]

A poll done at time who was tougher opponent Bradley for pac or cott o for floyd and Bradley w on poll.
And Pac beat Bradley 3 times. Legendary, above call of duty far and beyond

[Bandman]

Manny's style today isn't what it was in 2009

Just like Muhammad Ali's style wasn't in 1974, when he beat Foreman as it was in 1964 when he beat Sonny Liston.

The great ones sometimes can readjust.

Just watch the Manny Pacquiao that wiped out Oscar De La Hoya and tell me that's the same fighter you say in 2015 when he fought Floyd.

Floyd's style of being a patient defensive counter puncher is a better aging style, just like Bernard Hopkins' style allowed him to last longer.
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well thats maybe because a drained half dead Oscar is not comparable to Mayweather?? bad example there. and how can you bring up 2009 and skip over the fact the only reason it didn't happen was because Manny refused testing? but that's a dead horse now. I think Floyd neutralizes any version of Manny and makes him cautious. no matter what year it is