Does Floyd have a single win as good as Pac’s win over Bradley?

[Roadblock]

In another thread I responded to you with the above!


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So your response to Manny wanting a Superman drug when their was nothing wrong with him is honorable right ? you jump over that to go on about an IV that was legal by the Commission .

Water will never beat Toradol understand the difference, Floyd was blood tested before and after IV so what did it mask fkn nothing, and 750ml could not mask anything anyway I wish you fools would do some dam research into things concerning IV volumes and masking, but I guess if you did you would prove yourself wrong, cant have that can we.

[The D3vil]

You dont listen man I said Floyd is bigger about 4lbs max across 4 divisions, its not about height reach its about weight and with boxers its fighting weight, go and find all their fight night weights from 130 to 147 and you will see its as I said it was.

Mark Breland was a 6' 2" WW , Mike Tyson was a 5' 10" HW , height and reach has nothing to do with weight classes.



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Mike Tyson has a huge body frame look at his neck, especially when he was young.

Manny is a small person, who had to literally put rocks in his pockets in his first fights to make 105lbs.

Floyd's an averaged sized person.

It's not just about reach and height. It's about frame.

Floyd's frame is bigger than Manny's frame, hence why Manny still has to gorge to make 147lbs.

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So your response to Manny wanting a Superman drug when their was nothing wrong with him is honorable right ? you jump over that to go on about an IV that was legal by the Commission .

Water will never beat Toradol understand the difference, Floyd was blood tested before and after IV so what did it mask fkn nothing, and 750ml could not mask anything anyway I wish you fools would do some dam research into things concerning IV volumes and masking, but I guess if you did you would prove yourself wrong, cant have that can we.

Toradol vs IV

Which one is illegal? IV


Superman drug?
You believe that Toradol is a superman drug BUT WADA does not!
Again, Toradol didn't make Kobe superman. It just helped with relieving some of his shoulder pain. Maybe you have never played sports or you are just having difficulty understanding or you are just biased. Have you ever went into a game where you were just coming off of an injury? Well, those that have may use a legal drug just before the game to help them either avoid reinjuring or limiting the pain. Either way, these drugs do not make you superman. If it did, WADA would have banned it.


USADA statement: "... Toradol is not prohibited under WADA rules, it was not necessary for Mr.Pacquiao to apply to USADA for a TUE or otherwise advise USADA of his intended use of the substance prior to the administration of the medication."


You said that Floyd was tested before and after the IV. Not really. They needed a FULL sample. It took ~ 7 hours to get a FULL sample. Once they got it later that day, with that FULL sample, the lab tested and provided Floyd's test results.



There is more than one reason that Floyd DELAYED to provide a FULL sample until after the IV . The main reason is to dilute the sample BUT the other reason can be that with some drugs, you want to delay testing as much as possible so it can be less and less likely to show up positive in test results. Now how about combining dilution PLUS delaying until about 8pm to provide a sample?


Here is INFO as per WADA
"https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/default/files/resources/files/WADA-2015-ISTI-Final-EN.pdf

21.1 Roles and Responsibilities of Athletes.
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21.1.2 To be available for Sample collection at all times.
[Comment to Article 21.1.2: With due regard to an Athlete’s human rights and privacy, legitimate anti-doping considerations sometimes require Sample collection late at night or early in the morning. For example, it is known that some Athletes Use low doses of EPO during these hours so that it will be undetectable in the morning.]"


Then the other point that you avoided completely. The head of the TUEC committee said that there were "red flags" and "smelled bad" on what happened with USADA and Floyd. Remember that Floyd representatives have been paying USADA for many years. This is something that USADA called BAD when Lance Armstrong did that. What about Floyd?????


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[Roadblock]

Toradol vs IV

Which one is illegal? IV


Superman drug?
You believe that Toradol is a superman drug BUT WADA does not!
Again, Toradol didn't make Kobe superman. It just helped with relieving some of his shoulder pain. Maybe you have never played sports or you are just having difficulty understanding or you are just biased. Have you ever went into a game where you were just coming off of an injury? Well, those that have may use a legal drug just before the game to help them either avoid reinjuring or limiting the pain. Either way, these drugs do not make you superman. If it did, WADA would have banned it.


USADA statement: "... Toradol is not prohibited under WADA rules, it was not necessary for Mr.Pacquiao to apply to USADA for a TUE or otherwise advise USADA of his intended use of the substance prior to the administration of the medication."


You said that Floyd was tested before and after the IV. Not really. They needed a FULL sample. It took ~ 7 hours to get a FULL sample. Once they got it later that day, with that FULL sample, the lab tested and provided Floyd's test results.



There is more than one reason that Floyd DELAYED to provide a FULL sample until after the IV . The main reason is to dilute the sample BUT the other reason can be that with some drugs, you want to delay testing as much as possible so it can be less and less likely to show up positive in test results. Now how about combining dilution PLUS delaying until about 8pm to provide a sample?


Here is INFO as per WADA
"https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/default/files/resources/files/WADA-2015-ISTI-Final-EN.pdf

21.1 Roles and Responsibilities of Athletes.
…
21.1.2 To be available for Sample collection at all times.
[Comment to Article 21.1.2: With due regard to an Athlete’s human rights and privacy, legitimate anti-doping considerations sometimes require Sample collection late at night or early in the morning. For example, it is known that some Athletes Use low doses of EPO during these hours so that it will be undetectable in the morning.]"


Then the other point that you avoided completely. The head of the TUEC committee said that there were "red flags" and "smelled bad" on what happened with USADA and Floyd. Remember that Floyd representatives have been paying USADA for many years. This is something that USADA called BAD when Lance Armstrong did that. What about Floyd?????


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Which was legal, both !

Yes Superman drug toradol.

op Rank's CEO Bob Arum, who promotes Pacquiao, says his fighter did injure himself in early April but he was "100%" recovered and sparring hard by the end of the camp.“ He says Pacquiao was perfectly fine when he entered the ring and requested a pre-fight numbing shot from the Nevada Commission as a precautionary measure.

https://inside.akronchildrens.org/20...toradol-audio/

(NFL linebacker) Brian Urlacher on HBO said last night, it’s like a flu shot, you line up, you get a quick shot and you put the Band-Aid on. They were saying it’s like a wonder drug, for three hours “you feel like Superman,” is kind of what they were saying. And so this drug was great.

https://www.denverpost.com/2020/10/3...-masking-drug/

“Religiously. Every day. There’s no way I could get through a season without that,” Quincey said of Toradol in the TSN piece. “If you took a Toradol, it would mask all the pain. It did not matter how ****** up you were and it never messed with your head. So you could focus, play a game, but literally run through a wall and not feel it. How good I felt on that drug — I felt like Superman. I couldn’t get hurt.”

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Mike Tyson has a huge body frame look at his neck, especially when he was young.

Manny is a small person, who had to literally put rocks in his pockets in his first fights to make 105lbs.

Floyd's an averaged sized person.

It's not just about reach and height. It's about frame.

Floyd's frame is bigger than Manny's frame, hence why Manny still has to gorge to make 147lbs.

Wtf are you on about, a lighter frame guy is taller and a denser guy is shorter they weigh near on the same read the numbers, are you trying to make an excuse Floyd was too big for Manny when they weigh nearly the same fight night GTFOH. I dont even get what youre trying to say because the lighter boned Floyd is a little taller your crying foul or something wtf.

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Which was legal, both !

Yes Superman drug toradol.

op Rank's CEO Bob Arum, who promotes Pacquiao, says his fighter did injure himself in early April but he was "100%" recovered and sparring hard by the end of the camp.“ He says Pacquiao was perfectly fine when he entered the ring and requested a pre-fight numbing shot from the Nevada Commission as a precautionary measure.

https://inside.akronchildrens.org/20...toradol-audio/

(NFL linebacker) Brian Urlacher on HBO said last night, it’s like a flu shot, you line up, you get a quick shot and you put the Band-Aid on. They were saying it’s like a wonder drug, for three hours “you feel like Superman,” is kind of what they were saying. And so this drug was great.

https://www.denverpost.com/2020/10/3...-masking-drug/

“Religiously. Every day. There’s no way I could get through a season without that,” Quincey said of Toradol in the TSN piece. “If you took a Toradol, it would mask all the pain. It did not matter how ****** up you were and it never messed with your head. So you could focus, play a game, but literally run through a wall and not feel it. How good I felt on that drug — I felt like Superman. I couldn’t get hurt.”

Manny's doctor said it was torn weeks before, and they mentioned to USADA specific drugs that was to be used to alleviate the pain. Manny after the fight had surgery on the same shoulder.

How would Toradol have made Manny superman IF he took it? All it MIGHT have done is relieve him somewhat of pain in his shoulder.


According to WADA IV is NOT legal and should NOT be taken for mild to moderate dehydration. NO WAY Floyd was more than MILDLY dehydrated. He weighed the same as he always has for a DECADE!






Reporter: Can you please explain to me about the TUE that you had to get because of the IV fluids after the weigh in? I was surprised that you had to take ....

Floyd : Say it again?

Reporter: Whatever you had to take after the weigh in, saline solution and whatever else ....

Floyd: Taking what?

Reporter: USADA, you needed a TUE ....

Floyd: I mean, I mean, some fighters take Pedialyte, .... Ellerbe can touch on the subject

Ellerbe: It's JUST dehydration.

Floyd: My urine was dark, really dark ... it could be from overworking

Reporter: You are not struggling to make weight.

Ellerbe: He didn't struggle Remember he needs to do the drug testing, he is working out, get blood taken, give urine .....

Floyd: and I'm older now ......





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[Divine Hammer]

I didn’t think Bradley beat JMM.

he did beat him clearly no controversy. anyone with a brain knows he did except roided marquez.

Pacquiao is a better win. Ring #1 ranked contender at 147. #3 P4P.

OP said don't mention pac or canelo. even then canelo was very green, only 21, drained at a catchweight, and struggled in his previous fight against trout (arguably lost or a draw). no catchweight against bradley, and bradley coming off a clear UD against #3 p4p marquez.

The “green” Canelo is a better win. Ring champion at 154 and #9 P4P.

bradley was #3 p4p, #2 welterweight behind floyd, coming off a clear non controversial UD win against roided to the gills marquez who had just KO'ed pac.

bradley >>>>> very green drained canelo

Mosley is a better win. 147 Lineal champion, #2 ranked at WW. #3 P4P.

mosley was old, past prime and coming off a more than 1 year layoff (no tune ups) and it showed in the fight. gassed out after the 3rd or 4th round. pathetic. bradley was younger, and undefeated (on paper).

bradley >>>>> old past prime mosley coming off a more than 1 year lay off

Cotto is better. #1 ranked at 154.

cotto past prime, only 3 fights removed from getting completely and utterly demolished by pac. who cares if he was #1 at a weak 154lb division. who did he beat???? a one eye margarito coming off one of the biggest beatings in his life?? a shot mayorga?? #1 154 cotto struggled against a shot mayorga hahahhahahahahahahaaha sucker. and cotto lost soon after to trout.

bradley >>>>> past prime cotto with mediocre resume at 154

DLH. The Ring #3 at 154.

de la hoya was old and past prime, 1 fight removed from getting KO'ed by hopkins. bradley younger, and undefeated

bradley >>>>> old past prime de la hoya

JMM. #2 P4P

marquez jumping up 2 weight classes for the first time. out of shape. no steroids from heredia. bradley beat a much much better and stronger version of marquez.

bradley >>>>> fat pee drinking out of shape marquez jumping 2 weight classes for first time ever

Genaro Hernandez. 130 Lineal champ. Oddsmakers had this match even.

hernandez was much older, past his prime.

bradley >>>> past prime old hernandez

Hatton. Ring/Lineal champ at 140. #8 P4P. Mayweather was also only a 2-1 favorite. Fans forget Hatton was seen as a live dog for Mayweather.

hatton would get completely UD'ed by bradley.

Corrales was #1 ranked at 130 by The Ring and P4P #5.

Oddsmakers saw this as a 50-50 fight.

corrales was weight drained. bradley wasn't. bradley was top 3 p4p. corrales wasn't.

[The D3vil]

Wtf are you on about, a lighter frame guy is taller and a denser guy is shorter they weigh near on the same read the numbers, are you trying to make an excuse Floyd was too big for Manny when they weigh nearly the same fight night GTFOH. I dont even get what youre trying to say because the lighter boned Floyd is a little taller your crying foul or something wtf.

Dude, I see you know nothing about boxing now, if you think that what you weigh on fight night is the only thing that matters.

Frame size matters and everybody knows that.

Roberto Duran & Marvin Hagler weighed the same thing when they fought, but Duran was a natural 135lb guy, fighting a natural 160lber in Hagler.

Hagler was the bigger guy, regardless of what they weighed when they were in the ring together.

[Roadblock]

Dude, I see you know nothing about boxing now, if you think that what you weigh on fight night is the only thing that matters.

Frame size matters and everybody knows that.

Roberto Duran & Marvin Hagler weighed the same thing when they fought, but Duran was a natural 135lb guy, fighting a natural 160lber in Hagler.

Hagler was the bigger guy, regardless of what they weighed when they were in the ring together.

Nobody said it doesnt matter its not officially relevant, every sport has attribute that can advantage one guy and enhance another , your idea will throw shade on every athlete that campaigns in his division because he was a bigger WW than the other guy, every time a fighter steps in and the other guy is a bit taller wins unfairly according to you , we have divisions if you are in one dont cry because the other guy is a bees **** closer to the divisions limits than the other guy.

Before you start the I dont know boxing mate you better examine your argument , Ive said in every post to you Floyd is bigger , I also quoted the numbers which proves the numbers are not that far apart 4lbs or less across 4 divisions, what the fck do you want .

[Roadblock]

Manny's doctor said it was torn weeks before, and they mentioned to USADA specific drugs that was to be used to alleviate the pain. Manny after the fight had surgery on the same shoulder.



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Who Pays Mannys Doctors fees ?

Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum, who promotes Pacquiao, says his fighter did injure himself in early April but he was "100%" recovered and sparring hard by the end of the camp.“ He says Pacquiao was perfectly fine when he entered the ring and requested a pre-fight numbing shot from the Nevada Commission as a precautionary measure.