Does Floyd have a single win as good as Pac’s win over Bradley?

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  • techliam
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    #41
    Originally posted by Roadblock
    Thurman and Spence beat Bradley easy , see how the triangle theory doesnt work ot does it.

    Bradley and Porter would be very competitive.
    Thurman and Spence beating Bradley is your own thinking, but you’re entitled to your own opinion

    Passing it off as fact doesn’t change a thing, never mind using it to create a solid argument

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    • Roadblock
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      #42
      Originally posted by techliam
      Thurman and Spence beating Bradley is your own thinking, but you’re entitled to your own opinion

      Passing it off as fact doesn’t change a thing, never mind using it to create a solid argument
      Are you saying you think Bradley could beat Spence and Thurman, not the injured Thurman the one that fought Porter ?

      Are you saying Bradley would beat Porter easy, I think it would be very competitive and I would back Porter because Bradly is not a WW and he never beat WWS.

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        #43
        Originally posted by The D3vil
        1. Leon Spinks beat Ali 1 on 1, does that make him greater?

        So did Holmes, Frazier, and Ken Norton, yet Ali's still considered greater than all of them. See how that works?

        2.Floyd absolutely can wait for Manny to get old because some styles age worst than others. Manny's high-impact swarming style doesn't last very long. That's why pressure fighters tend to not last past their mid 30s.

        3. Floyd as the A-side could've made any fight he wanted to at any time, just like Canelo & AJ.
        you cant use that excuse man, Manny is literally still a world champion as of now while Floyd is long retired..so yea that doesnt work here

        Ali was shot and had parkinson when Holmes beat him, he was shot when ho lost to Spinks..He beat Fraizer 2 times and beat Norton..so that also doesnt work..fact is Floyd was the better boxer and proved it head to head while they both were p4p #1 and #2 and ww's #1 and #2 and unified titles...

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        • Divine Hammer
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          #44
          Originally posted by mxtali
          Corrales?

          Aside from the point, the bradley win is very underrated. I remember back then people were criticizing Pacquiao bc Bradley was moving up in weight lol. Mostly floyd fans but still. That was the absolute best opponent Bob could have gave Manny.
          yup. only corrales win can be argued as slightly sort of maybe but probably not better.

          bradley #3 p4p, #2 welterweight behind floyd, coming off a clear UD win against a roided to the gills top 5 p4p marquez. the same roided pyscho that KO'ed pac. undefeated (on paper).prime peak of his career.

          what does floyd have??? quitter ortiz whose only claim to fame is beating an overrated berto? #7 ranked maidana who lost badly to devon alexander (same alexander that bradley pwned), struggled against a shot fat old morales, and his only claim to fame are beating quitter ortiz and an extremely overrated broner who struggled against past prime malignaggi??? a bloated out of shape pre steroid heredia marquez?? hatton would lose easily to bradley. berto sucks. judah coming off a loss. baldomir hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. guerrero hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

          also canelo was 22 year old very green whose best wins were beating old man mosley coming off a loss, and an extremely competitive fight against trout (arguably lost or draw). wow amazing win!!!

          etc. etc.

          these are undisputed facts. chumps!!!!
          Last edited by Divine Hammer; 12-31-2020, 08:24 PM.

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            #45
            Oscar De La Hoya at 154 pounds, would of beaten Manny Pacquiao.

            De La Hoya underestimated Pacquiao completely.

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              #46
              Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
              Oscar De La Hoya at 154 pounds, would of beaten Manny Pacquiao.

              De La Hoya underestimated Pacquiao completely.
              I cant believe such a high profile career athlete could fck up the weight so badly, he looked terrible against LW Steve Forbes at 150 and had trouble making that weight, how on earth did he think he could make 147 and be strong, then he weighs in at 145 and was only 147 fight night a weight he had not been since is LW days.

              Fanboys only see names they dont understand the sport enough to see all the BS that went on with weight in Mannys biggest fights.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Roadblock
                Are you saying you think Bradley could beat Spence and Thurman, not the injured Thurman the one that fought Porter ?

                Are you saying Bradley would beat Porter easy, I think it would be very competitive and I would back Porter because Bradly is not a WW and he never beat WWS.
                I don’t have an opinion on fantasy fights. This is your attempt to divert away from the original point

                Bradley beat Marquez coming off a devastating KO of Manny

                Porter struggled with Spence and Thurman, two fighters who aren’t seen as ATGs and haven’t shined even in a very weak welterweight division. Hell Thurman lost to a way past it Manny, showing how bad the division currently is. These are each others best wins

                The achievements are night and day. I base a fighters ‘level’ on their resume, not fantasy. Comparing Porter and Bradley is laughable

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Roadblock
                  I cant believe such a high profile career athlete could fck up the weight so badly, he looked terrible against LW Steve Forbes at 150 and had trouble making that weight, how on earth did he think he could make 147 and be strong, then he weighs in at 145 and was only 147 fight night a weight he had not been since is LW days.

                  Fanboys only see names they dont understand the sport enough to see all the BS that went on with weight in Mannys biggest fights.
                  At the time? Nobody knew how good Pacquiao would be at the higher weights. And lets not forget, that Pacquiao was routinely bashed about in the lower weight categories.

                  Oscar De La Hoya, probably knew he was weight drained 'But even still believed her could still beat Pacquiao'.

                  De La Hoya at 154 was faster, and way stronger.

                  Note: Miguel Cotto maybe was a tad drained, but I think he was well prepared 'Unlike De La hoya, Cotto never dismissed Pacquaio'.

                  I can remember when Chad Dawson agreed to fight Andre Ward at 168 pounds 'Some fighters just seem not to understand their performance range'.
                  Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 12-31-2020, 09:50 PM.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by FeFist
                    This thread makes no sense.

                    Pacquiao is a greater fighter than Bradley. Mayweather beat Pacquiao after and before Pacquiao beat Bradley.

                    To answer your question, Mayweather's victory over Pacquiao is better than Pacquiao's victory over Bradley.
                    I'm not even a Floyd fan but this is logical. I'd also give FM huge props for his win over Canelo, prime or not prime.

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                    • Roadblock
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by techliam
                      I don’t have an opinion on fantasy fights. This is your attempt to divert away from the original point

                      Bradley beat Marquez coming off a devastating KO of Manny

                      Porter struggled with Spence and Thurman, two fighters who aren’t seen as ATGs and haven’t shined even in a very weak welterweight division. Hell Thurman lost to a way past it Manny, showing how bad the division currently is. These are each others best wins

                      The achievements are night and day. I base a fighters ‘level’ on their resume, not fantasy. Comparing Porter and Bradley is laughable
                      Seeing as Porter has not fought Bradley and your picking Tim as better you are into fantasy even if you dont think you are.

                      My reasons are size, Tim is no WW Spence is a monster WW and Porter and Thurman are way bigger than Tim, if JMM is your only yardstick I think your dismissing alot of telling information when trying to estimate their differences .

                      For my money there is no way JMM could beat Spence or uninjured Thurman or Porter they are just too big. Ruslan is not near Porter and look how that went, no matter how I slice it I cannot see Tim beating Porter he is too small.

                      Would Porter beat Morales, their resume are not comparable but the size is.

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