If Haney isn't the champ why does he have 2 mandatory defenses?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I get that Haney is the wbc champ but most rational fans see Teo as the undisputed champion.

The wbc really f-cked this up.

All the email jokes aside, it is the WBC’s fault for introducing this franchise bullsh**.

Hopefully he fights Campbell/Garcia or Fortuna cause at least then he’ll have a respectable win on his resume whether people recognise him as a champion or not.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Who has the same belt Floyd held at lightweight?

Teofimo...

As Floyd was ring champ too.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Teofimo...

As Floyd was ring champ too.

The same WBC belt.

Why don't you want to see this fight?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

The same WBC belt.

Why don't you want to see this fight?

Cause it doesn’t interest me.

Who has Haney fought or beat to suggest he can even compete with an elite level fighter like Lopez?

Go beat a Richard Commey, Luke Campbell, Linares, Fortuna etc and I’ll be interested.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Cause it doesn’t interest me.

Who has Haney fought or beat to suggest he can even compete with an elite level fighter like Lopez?

Go beat a Richard Commey, Luke Campbell, Linares, Fortuna etc and I’ll be interested.

Haney did everything right to put himself in position to fight top competition. He got himself in position to fight Campbell for the vacant WBC then the WBC gave the shot to Loma. He got himself in position to fight Lomachenko as his mandatory and the WBC let Loma vacate & gave him a made up title.

I agree Haney hasn't fought the best competition but it's not like he's avoided them. At every step roadblocks have been put in his way to keep him from the big fights

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Haney did everything right to put himself in position to fight top competition. He got himself in position to fight Campbell for the vacant WBC then the WBC gave the shot to Loma. He got himself in position to fight Lomachenko as his mandatory and the WBC let Loma vacate & gave him a made up title.

I agree Haney hasn't fought the best competition but it's not like he's avoided them. At every step roadblocks have been put in his way to keep him from the big fights

Belts mean nothing to me man, I’m not saying he’s ducked anyone either FTR. Just before he fights Teofimo, Loma, Tank etc I’d like to see him at least fight somebody respectable or I just won’t be interested, as he hasn’t really impressed me via the eye test or via his resume.

Go and defend against Garcia/Campbell winner or Fortuna and I’ll be all for it, but I’m not sure he beats those guys tbh.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Belts mean nothing to me man, I’m not saying he’s ducked anyone either FTR. Just before he fights Teofimo, Loma, Tank etc I’d like to see him at least fight somebody respectable or I just won’t be interested, as he hasn’t really impressed me via the eye test or via his resume.

Go and defend against Garcia/Campbell winner or Fortuna and I’ll be all for it, but I’m not sure he beats those guys tbh.

You're in a topic about belts, said Teo has the real belt, now suddenly belts mean nothing to you? This isn't a "Teo ducking Haney " topic. This is about who has the lightweight belt. If belts mean nothing to you why have you wasted your time commenting?

[Combat Talk Radio]

If Teo is the undisputed lightweight champion with all four belts including the WBC what belt is Haney defending?

Because, as I posted night of the fight, Teo is NOT full undisputed.

They basically swung it to where that WBC is basically "split" - meaning Teo'd have to beat Haney to be the "full" WBC champion.

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=857724

https://*******.com/wbcfiasco

Franchise Champion means Lomachenko can fight for any WBC title in any division at will. The accolade is only given to the very best.

Due to this reason, Devin Haney was handed was is now seen as the normal version of the strap. But it’s widely known that until Haney beats Lomachenko or the pound for pound star loses, the American won’t be fully seen as the full title-holder.

Lomachenko lost.

Thus...Devin Haney is now officially the full champion.

I know what you're thinking. 2019 Haney was supposed to be "full" champion. Well, he wasn't.

Teofimo becomes the new Franchise champion (board approved per Top Rank's request) ...but not the "real" champion. He'd have to beat Haney for that.

In other words...despite what ESPN kept squawking and what Sulaiman was pitching, Teofimo did NOT unify all four IBHOF recognized belts. He unified WBA, IBF, WBO and The Ring. The Ring isn't recognized by the IBHOF though it's a more credible title than the letter orgs. Thus, 'officially' Teofimo unified 3 belts, not four.

Ryan Garcia vs. Luke Campbell in December is for the WBC interim title - which creates a mandatory, but Haney can take a voluntary defense.

Meanwhile they plan to hold title eliminators in Russia to try and whittle the list down.

• Vasyl Lomachenko
• Teofimo Lopez
• Devin Haney
• Ryan Garcia
• Luke Campbell
• Javier Fortuna
• Jorge Linares

Are ye entertained?

[-Kev-]

Sure Devin Haney put himself in position for the WBC title and could never fight for it. The issue boxing fans take up with him isn’t that he didn’t want to fight for it. It’s that when he didn’t get the fights for it because the champions were fighting bigger names, he cried for it, through email, and got it.

Some fighters want to fight the best, and the best just come with the title as a bonus. Haney showed that all he cared about was being called the WBC champion, without earning it by beating the best.

It doesn’t help that he doesn’t even excite anyone. He could not hurt a 40 year old Gamboa who has been knocked down 15 times in his career.

He also said that really idiotic comment about not losing to a white person. Yeah, B-Hop said it. B-Hop had been fighting for 20 years and had trash talked every race/culture already. Including stomping the Puerto Rican flag. It was also 2008, much different racial tensions than now. Devin Haney had just come off of an email victory for the WBC title. To be talking like that. Really ******.

“Same title Floyd had”. That doesn’t prevent a title from being a paper title. If God won the WBC LW title for beating the Devil, Haney doesn’t inherit that win. Mayweather’s wins vs Castillo 2x are his own wins and that was how he got/defended his WBC title. I looked at Devin Haney’s resume just now and I do not see prime Floyd Mayweather Jr or prime Jose Luis Castillo there as a win for the 135 WBC title. So you’re going to have to elaborate on what that means.

Devin Haney is going to be in a world of trouble when he steps up because everyone now knows the kid has little power. He has 0 respect from other boxers as well. When other boxers are asked about him, you can tell they think he’s a joke of a boxer.

[Mammoth]

Sure Devin Haney put himself in position for the WBC title and could never fight for it. The issue boxing fans take up with him isn’t that he didn’t want to fight for it. It’s that when he didn’t get the fights for it because the champions were fighting bigger names, he cried for it, through email, and got it.

Sounds made up....