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    #51
    Originally posted by Oregonian
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    Two years ago Manny was fighting Mathysse, Broner, Vargas etc ... all those guys were coming off losses.
    There is no “if” Manny beats Spence.
    Manny is going to go after Khan or Mikey Garcia or some “undefeated” guy from Wakanda like how it was with Algieri and Horn.
    Lucas was just to get an easy mandatory.

    Broner was a gatekeeper fight to fight Keef as mando. That fight would have been something before Broner lost to Chino.

    Vargas was a stay busy fight.

    I don't fault Manny for those, because only Lucas was truly washed up and that was before PBC.

    Unlike Crawford whose ENTIRE 147 at Top Rank has been tune up, washed, damaged, crippled, unranked, etc. while ESPN and his fans call him #1 P4P.


    Originally posted by eakunne@luc.edu
    If Spence was fighting the level of competition bud is he’d be KO’ ing those guys too...algeri and Peterson were B level welterweights...people would **** on Spence for fighting washed khan, benavidez types
    This is the correct answer.



    All I see NSB talking about is "Spence couldn't KO Mikey" and "Crawford knocks everyone out!!"

    I'm sorry. I don't give credit for knocking out guys YOU SHOULD knock out.

    I give credit for knocking out guys you SHOULDN'T knock out.

    Spence stopping prime Algieri off the chin, a guy Khan, Ruslan and Manny couldn't get out of there, is more impressive to me than a low blow stoppage of Amir Khan - a guy Algieri arguably beat, Swift sparked the chin of in 4 and Canelo almost killed in the ring.

    But because Spence fought three guys at the top of the game (whether NSB believes they should be there is moot), he's in there with guys not likely to get knocked out, because of skill.

    As mentioned above if Spence fought the ghost of Amir Khan he sparks the chin in 3. But he'd be rightfully criticized for taking the fight.

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    • Drew Bundini Br
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      #52
      Originally posted by richardt
      You have it backwards. It is Pac who hasn't fought in ages and Spence just fought, and Garcia was no tune up. If anyone needs a tune up it is Pac.
      Good point. Garcia was very dangerous and gutsy fight for Spence to take. I would of gotten him a tuneup b4 I let him have Garcia. Spence stood tall and dominated 8-4. As for Pac, he is well rested and ready to go. He hasn't been out because of injury or as long as Floyd or Ward who were out 2 whole years so Pac will be ok.

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      • Curtis2
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        #53
        Originally posted by Drew Bundini Br
        I thought Spence should've took easier tuneup. The fact that he didn't shows how real he is. I tip my hat to him.
        Easier than Danny?? Damn, how low can you go?? It goes to show you Jr Spence ain't KO any legit WW let alone going the distance with T Crawford.... TC stops Jr by round 9 !!

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          #54
          Originally posted by Curtis2
          Easier than Danny?? Damn, how low can you go?? It goes to show you Jr Spence ain't KO any legit WW let alone going the distance with T Crawford.... TC stops Jr by round 9 !!
          U need to put some respect on D Garcia's name. He's never been stopped and is a tough, respected former champ. A tuneup with someone in the top 15 would have been very understandable for Spence based what he wen't through.

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          • Drew Bundini Br
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            #55
            hugh grant

            I had to get back 2 u on ur comment about Pac being greater than Floyd as ATG. Stop playing and we can take u more serious next time.

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              #56
              Originally posted by sbbigmike
              Compubox was up from round 1 with the agenda...

              I saw Garcia scraping spence with easy to score body shots and straight right hands and the ticker wouldn't move for shyt for Garcia

              Spence wasn't all too impressive outside of 2-3 dominat dominant rounds...the fight truly could have been scored 7-5 either way, my boxing conviction can't say spence clearly won when he clearly lost the last 4-5 rounds, turning his back spitting out his mouth piece in all
              I had it 7-5 also but on NSB thats a schooling. What Spence does do well is jab in and out. His jab is just as good defensively as it is offensive. He did well at not letting Danny land more than 1. I did recognize Spence was the Ring General because of this but it was far from the make believe blowout thats being pushed.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Madison boxing
                garcia was there to pick up a paycheque and go the 12 rounds, nothing more nothing less. same as mikey was. its hard to knock out a fighter whos not there to win.
                Yeah, both fights were glorified sparring sessions...the hamonites get all salty if you see through their spin.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by TexasCowBoy
                  Yeah, both fights were glorified sparring sessions...the hamonites get all salty if you see through their spin.
                  Both of u are on some pure nonsense. Both Garcia's are legit former champs.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by TexasCowBoy
                    Yeah, both fights were glorified sparring sessions...the hamonites get all salty if you see through their spin.
                    yeah, it didnt look to me as if garcia was there to win, the brief was to give spence the 12 rounds and a name on his record, and in turn go home with a decent cheque without much damage and without being embarrassed

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Drew Bundini Br
                      Both of u are on some pure nonsense. Both Garcia's are legit former champs.
                      neither turned up with any ambition to win, mikeys performance was a damn disgrace in particular

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