Comments Thread For: Manager: Joe Joyce Has Earned A World Title Shot; He's Ready For Anybody

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  • 1Eriugenus
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    #21
    Joe has a lousy jab. He doesn't snap it out straight, he sorta pushes it half-way then extends it. It seems to work though!
    He is such a huge, powerful, athletic guy that he seems to get away with doing even the basics wrong.

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    • 1Eriugenus
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      #22
      To me, JJ v the winner Fa v Parker is an easy fight to make

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      • PRINCEKOOL
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        #23
        Originally posted by Kezzer
        The problem he has, as do many really - is that Joshua has four of the five belts. A lot of the time fringe fighters like Joyce get a shot right about now, I Mean Joshua did when he took on Martin originally. However there are others like Whyte (albeit needing to beat Povetkin) and Usyk who are well ahead of him in any que.

        Joyce needs to just make sure he continues his momentum as he has a decent chance of getting one in 2022 - particularly since both fury and Joshua are British meaning a domestic dust up which would sell. Someone like a chisora would be perfect for him in my opinion for his next fight.
        When the belts become on lockers with 1 fighter, Tyson Fury or Anthony Joshua. It is going to be really difficult for fighters to get a title fight' It will prolong everything'.

        Somehow I think Joyce, needs to get the fight with Uysk 'Even if it is not for a title'.

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        • Eff Pandas
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          #24
          Idk if beating a top prospect should earn you a title shot, but regardless if AJ drops the WBO belt it seems likely it'll be him vs Usyk for that belt so fair play to him if he gets that opportunity. Idk if a DDD W is necessarily title shot worthy doe, but yea you should be spinning it that way as Joe's manager so I get what he's doing.

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          • Corelone
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            #25
            If Joe gets a shot, he earned it before he met Dboi. That was too easy.

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            • Roberto Vasquez
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              #26
              Originally posted by REDEEMER
              Not really , unofficial rankings go by point systems which is even worse . This eliminates guys like Joyce who IS a top ten guy easily.

              The best rankings doing point system is the transnational boxing . It’s not owned by a sole group or fighter and is voted legitimate on .

              No rankings list is ever suited to ones preferred order so it actually is irrelevant.

              I have Joyce at 6 just based on credibility knowing there’s only a few who can get past him . I would have him over a Wilder if they fought at any point now but I don’t rank him over Wilder so there’s where the pitfall is dealing with non official rankings .
              But Rankings can never be based on speculation. The amount of people who thought Dubois could beat AJ based on him beating literally no-one shows that.

              Joyce won't get to be a top-10 fighter in real-life until he beats a top-10 fighter. Fan speculation means nothing. Even low ranked top-10 boxers like Parker are no joke. Joyce found Jennings to be a hard fight. There's no easy fights in the top-10.

              There's a simple answer - Joyce needs to fight a top-10 ranked boxer next. I'd say going for the top man now would be too soon for him now and would most likely waste his chance.

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              • Roberto Vasquez
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                #27
                Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                Which top 10 hw has Usyk beaten to deserve a shot?
                I don't think he deserves it personally but I get the rule about him being a champion going up in weight.

                I would also say that Usyk beating Chisora is better than Joyce beating Dubois. Chisora is battle-tested and has beaten way better opponents than Dubois.

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                • JakeTheBoxer
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez
                  I don't think he deserves it personally but I get the rule about him being a champion going up in weight.

                  I would also say that Usyk beating Chisora is better than Joyce beating Dubois. Chisora is battle-tested and has beaten way better opponents than Dubois.
                  Dubois is better win IMO.

                  Joyce already beat Stiverne, Jennings, Dubois. I guess he deserves a shot.

                  I mean, we live in era, when guys like Duhaupas, Molina, Breazeale, Ortiz all got title shots.

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                  • Liondw
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                    #29
                    He deserves a shot at Fury or Joshua. He's a good fighter, although I don't think he'll beat either of those champions.

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                    • REDEEMER
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez
                      But Rankings can never be based on speculation. The amount of people who thought Dubois could beat AJ based on him beating literally no-one shows that.

                      Joyce won't get to be a top-10 fighter in real-life until he beats a top-10 fighter. Fan speculation means nothing. Even low ranked top-10 boxers like Parker are no joke. Joyce found Jennings to be a hard fight. There's no easy fights in the top-10.

                      There's a simple answer - Joyce needs to fight a top-10 ranked boxer next. I'd say going for the top man now would be too soon for him now and would most likely waste his chance.
                      Why is Luis Ortiz ranked 3 in the WBC and 5 in the Ring ratings ? Isn’t that an actual speculation. Can you tell me what the difference is besides being in the top 5 in both ?

                      No one outside Wilder fans believed that Dubois would have defeated A.J.
                      Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-25-2020, 12:30 PM.

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