What does it take for a Boxer to beat Canelo ?

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  • FinitoxDinamita
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    #11
    Canelo is not on the level of Pacman, Floyd, Morales and these dudes so stop. Lol

    Many active fighters can beat canelo.

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    • whollisboxing
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      #12
      Originally posted by WillieWild114
      What are the tools a Boxer needs to defeat him ?
      To answer this question I will start by looking at a few of Canelo's fights:

      Callum Smith: Smith tried to use his jab to maintain distance but Canelo is built like a tank but also slippery. Also, Smith allowed Canelo to get a head of steam so covering up along the ropes and trying to counter isn't the answer.

      James Kirkland: A lot of people felt like Callum Smith should have simply thrown caution to the wind but they obviously forgot about this fight. Kirkland tried to go into savage mode and got savagely knocked out. In other words, trying to exchange with a handspeed disadvantage also isn't the answer

      Amir Khan: Of course we know how this one ended, however Khan's handspeed was bothersome initially. Khan obviously got walked down but he did show that a smaller guy with handspeed can do better than a bigger guy trying to catch and counter on the ropes

      Erislandy Lara: Lara costs himself by moving so much, and he might have pulled out the victory if he had stood his ground a little more. He did show that good footwork can be difficult for Canelo

      Floyd Mayweather Jr: Obviously there was no shame in a young Canelo losing to an older HOF fighter, however Mayweather's performance showed that a smaller guy with both handspeed (Khan) and footspeed (Lara) would cause issues because Canelo didn't have the advantage as far as being slick.

      Gennady Golovkin: Golovkin wasn't able to throw combinations because he was wary of Canelo's handspeed. Instead he just hung in there with a thudding jab and an iron will.

      Now, to answer your question, I think a smaller fighter (or a big guy, but not so big that he's a big target), with comparable hand and footspeed (or overall coordination) would trouble Canelo the most.

      The big guys (Kovalev, Callum Smith) because he's too slippery and it's over once he gets a head of steam and starts ripping body shots.

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      • Johnny2x2x
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        #13
        He’s not the same fighter he was a few years ago. He’s much better. No version of GgG comes close to this Canelo.

        But he’s not unbeatable. Would take a technician with speed and a good jab. Or maybe a big 175 pounder who can walk through Canelo’s shots.

        He’s a great fighter now. Really has honed his style and I feel like his weaknesses from earlier in his career are gone. But he’s not going to go undefeated the rest of his career.

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        • Hustle
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          #14
          A good jab, decent power, and stamina.

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          • Queen_Leia
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            #15
            Originally posted by eco1
            fair judges and to NOT be strategically matched. Canelo is a B+ fighter who has been strategically matched.
            Lost to Mayweather and Golovkin. Was given a gift and even in one of the Mayweather judge's card he was supposedly a draw, LOL!!!!
            Okay who are the A + fighters from 154 - 168 that Alvarez hasn't fought yet?

            Also losing to a fighter in the court of public opinion is not the same as having a lost on your official record therefore Golovkin has never beaten Alvarez.

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            • BaguMka
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              #16
              Pednelo is fraud

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              • eco1
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                #17
                Originally posted by Queen_Leia
                Okay who are the A + fighters from 154 - 168 that Alvarez hasn't fought yet?

                Also losing to a fighter in the court of public opinion is not the same as having a lost on your official record therefore Golovkin has never beaten Alvarez.
                In the eys of 99% of analysts and people Golovkin beat Clenelo twice.

                Clenelo knows how to jumo from the Clenelo weight to whatever weight is convenient for him.

                -I won against Fielding, what do I do about Beterbiev???
                - we run to another weight until he gets old, Clenny!!!

                I am done with this sport and the people stealing my money.

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                • JakeTheBoxer
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                  #18
                  Many active guys can beat him. Just Canelo will duck them or wait them to be old and slow and fight them than.

                  Canelo fought GGG when GGG was already past his prime
                  Canelo fought Jacobs after Jacobs struggled badly with Derev
                  Canelo fought Kovalev when Kovalev was completely done
                  Canelo fought Callum after Callum`s terrible performance against Ryder

                  It is what it is. He always fights guys past their prime or guys that looked terrible in last fight.

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                  • GrandpaBernard
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                    Many active guys can beat him. Just Canelo will duck them or wait them to be old and slow and fight them than.

                    Canelo fought GGG when GGG was already past his prime
                    Canelo fought Jacobs after Jacobs struggled badly with Derev
                    Canelo fought Kovalev when Kovalev was completely done
                    Canelo fought Callum after Callum`s terrible performance against Ryder

                    It is what it is. He always fights guys past their prime or guys that looked terrible in last fight.
                    the manny pacq playbook

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                    • Divine Hammer
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                      the manny pacq playbook
                      sasakul looked terrible before pac fought him??? ledwaba??? barrera??? marquez???? morales first fight???? hatton after outboxing and stopping a prime malignaggi something prime cotto couldnt do?? bradley???? #5 ranked clottey arguably beat #2 ranked welterweight cotto??? vargas coming off a ko win against undefeated top ten ranked ali who would later go on to retire cotto etc. Etc. Etc.

                      how many decent to good fighters canelo fight or beat that didn't look bad beforehand?? trout, lara, cotto and floyd???? very short list hahahahahahahahahahaha
                      Last edited by Divine Hammer; 12-20-2020, 11:39 AM.

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