Canelo is the most overrated boxer ever

[Boxing-1013]

You're making no sense, we should follow this guys scoring criteria but ignore his wack score cards?

The problem is youre saying "every other judge". No he said some people hes talked to.. like I said it's not gospel, judges score fights differently.

"A lot of times fans hear that judges focus on four categories: clean punches, effective aggressiveness, defense and ring generalship," Weisfeld said. "But based upon my own experience, my conversations with other judges and seminars conducted by top judges, judges really focus on one category, and that's clean punches."

"Most judges that I have spoken to do not give credit for defense alone."


He, a top judge in the sport, is telling you that he, and every other judge he knows in the sport, scores fights based on 1) what punches land and 2) how effective those punches are. That's it.

He tells you right there what it is. To suggest he has only talked to a few judges about how they judge fights, is one of the dumbest things I've heard on here in a while.

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He is telling you, what he and every other judge looks for in fights - they are scoring only clean punches and how effective they are, which should be obvious.

You can know how to score a fight, and still be bad at it. Or you could be corrupt, at least sometimes. Knowing how to score a fight and being good at it are not one and the same.

It's like knowing the rules as a referee, and also then being a good referee. To be a good ref, you need to know the rules well. But just because you know the rules well, doesn't mean you will be a good ref. Could be corrupt, ****** etc.

[Ochoa780]

"A lot of times fans hear that judges focus on four categories: clean punches, effective aggressiveness, defense and ring generalship," Weisfeld said. "But based upon my own experience, my conversations with other judges and seminars conducted by top judges, judges really focus on one category, and that's clean punches."

"Most judges that I have spoken to do not give credit for defense alone."


He, a top judge in the sport, is telling you that he, and every other judge he knows in the sport, scores fights based on 1) what punches land and 2) how effective those punches are. That's it.

He tells you right there what it is. To suggest he has only talked to a few judges about how they judge fights, is one of the dumbest things I've heard on here in a while.

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He is telling you, what he and every other judge looks for in fights - they are scoring only clean punches and how effective they are, which should be obvious.

You can know how to score a fight, and still be bad at it. Or you could be corrupt, at least sometimes. Knowing how to score a fight and being good at it are not one and the same.

It's like knowing the rules as a referee, and also then being a good referee. To be a good ref, you need to know the rules well. But just because you know the rules well, doesn't mean you will be a good ref. Could be corrupt, ****** etc.

How do you not understand the difference between "every judge" and "most judges I've talked to"??

And to suggest you can be a bad judge and know how to judge is ridiculous..

You are the one that seems to have his mind made up to defend his scores lol

To each his own

[BodyBagz]

If a guy doesn't like a boxer, fine

But to spew complete nonsense is dumbfounding, unless the critic is a casual.

[#1PaperChamp]

Read, study, learn.

https://www.premierboxingchampions.c...ow-score-fight

"A lot of times fans hear that judges focus on four categories: clean punches, effective aggressiveness, defense and ring generalship," Weisfeld said. "But based upon my own experience, my conversations with other judges and seminars conducted by top judges, judges really focus on one category, and that's clean punches."

Your boy Weisfeld scored the 2nd fight for Canelo.

Cant resist the sexy Cinnamon.

Ca$hnelo stunted all over you

[sargo]

Kovalev fight sure looked fixed

[Boxing-1013]

Your boy Weisfeld scored the 2nd fight for Canelo.

Cant resist the sexy Cinnamon.

Ca$hnelo stunted all over you

So what?

I'm not arguing that Weisfeld is a good judge, or more importantly, that he isn't able to be corrupted in big fights to give his handlers what they want.

When you're a judge in certain fights - you aren't scoring the fights, you are putting down the score your handlers want.

[New England]

Man that's a really low bar for beating the sh.it out of someone. He didn't even come close to getting 6 rounds any decent card. Got outlanded almost every round, lol.

you're talking about alvarez in the second golovkin fight?

he won the fight on 2 cards and one was a draw... are you confused?


ive been watching this sport for longer than a lot of you have been alive and i can watch a fight once without sound and give a card that is spot on. golovkin looked old, got outjabbed and beaten to the body, and took his first beating.

[Noelanthony]

It is very rare to see one guy being hyped so much based on two very close fights with old version of top rival. He also needed 2 robberies to get unbeaten from these fights.

Canelo fanatics keep hyping Canelo like he stopped GGG twice or something. Like we all here are ****** and haven`t seen the fights.

Nonsense..... I admit I had Canelo losing the first fight but he won the second and backed GGG up for 9 rounds and made him fight like Pernell Whittaker moving backwards when he was supposed to be this come forward machine

[AKAcronym]

you're talking about alvarez in the second golovkin fight?

he won the fight on 2 cards and one was a draw... are you confused?


ive been watching this sport for longer than a lot of you have been alive and i can watch a fight once without sound and give a card that is spot on. golovkin looked old, got outjabbed and beaten to the body, and took his first beating.

You sure you watched the fight?

[Boxing-1013]

you're talking about alvarez in the second golovkin fight?

he won the fight on 2 cards and one was a draw... are you confused?


ive been watching this sport for longer than a lot of you have been alive and i can watch a fight once without sound and give a card that is spot on. golovkin looked old, got outjabbed and beaten to the body, and took his first beating.

Literally jaw-dropping comment lol. Got outjabbed...really.

Yeah I watch always without sound and score, that's how you have to do it.

And anyone touting official cards in certain fights, Canelo fights for one, or other big fights/fights where a prospect is involved, I mean we see terrible, obviously corrupt cards all the time in boxing.

He got outlanded in 8 of 11 rounds, got outlanded by 30 punches. I've yet to see myself when I've watched the fight, or hear from anyone, one clear round Canelo won in that fight (or fight 1 for that matter).

Canelo is a good fighter. He fought well in both fights. He also got outworked pretty heavily in both fights. He was stronger in fight 2.

Saying he legit won, or that he beat the sh.it out of GGG as you said, I mean again, what a tremendously low bar for beating the sh.it out of someone, or even for winning a fight lol. If you've watched fights as long as you say you have, you would definitely know that. 100%.

If you decide for some reason not to score GGG's jab, then yeah you can give Canelo a win. But that's obviously a really dumb and incorrect way to score a fight.

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I see your profile pic btw - you do acknowledge that Ward lost fight 1 to Kov, right? Just want to see if you are on planet Earth with your scoring here and if a discussion now or at any time is worthwhile.