how come there is no buildup to canelo/smith?

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Again facts are facts.

Alotta ppl also saw Castillo beat Floyd in the first fight but it didn’t change a thing as far s Floyd still being the top LW at the time even after that bogus lose/win.

Smith is the undefeated and the ring champ was it an off night ala Whitaker/hurtado orwas he exposed we shall see but he’s still the top guy at smw that’s a fact.

But doesn’t matter because the canelo haters will discredit him no matter what he can KO charlo and Bivol in the same night and I can ****IN bet that they will discredit that shytt too.

and again facts dont matter when put in proper context. he shouldnt have won his last fight therefore it doenst matter if hes ranked #1 cause that makes no sense to any logical thinking person. and whitaker won that fight while smith should have lost so i dont understand that comparison at all. yes everyone has off nights but if you look at the totality of smiths resume/performances there isnt much there. he won a close one over erik kolling. hes just not an elite level talent. calling him #1 after a clear loss to john ryder who is an ok but mid level guy himself is just silly. he had a third ggg fight or a beterbiev fight and he opted for this one so he knows what hes doing. hes picking his spots. this is his baldomir. baldomir didnt even lose but no one thought him better than marg.

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and again facts dont matter when put in proper context. he shouldnt have won his last fight therefore it doenst matter if hes ranked #1 cause that makes no sense to any logical thinking person. and whitaker won that fight while smith should have lost so i dont understand that comparison at all. yes everyone has off nights but if you look at the totality of smiths resume/performances there isnt much there. he won a close one over erik kolling. hes just not an elite level talent. calling him #1 after a clear loss to john ryder who is an ok but mid level guy himself is just silly. he had a third ggg fight or a beterbiev fight and he opted for this one so he knows what hes doing. hes picking his spots. this is his baldomir. baldomir didnt even lose but no one thought him better than marg.

Here we go. Lol

You do know ggg wanted a fight before another 3rd fight with canelo right? Any beef there take it up with the kazak cherry picker.

And Beterbiev has done squat ****tt to even be mention in a fight with canelo no more of this freebie ****t for these unproven cats who just wanna cash out. Atleast Smith won the super six and holds wins over better fighters than that shifff robotic hype job butterbut.

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Here we go. Lol

You do know ggg wanted a fight before another 3rd fight with canelo right? Any beef there take it up with the kazak cherry picker.

And Beterbiev has done squat ****tt to even be mention in a fight with canelo no more of this freebie ****t for these unproven cats who just wanna cash out. Atleast Smith won the super six and holds wins over better fighters than that shifff robotic hype job butterbut.

you do know canelo rejected the third ggg fight first right? when it was actually relevant Alvarez said. "They may have wanted the Triple G fight, but as I said before, he represents no challenge for me, so I didn't feel any pressure (to make the third fight)."

then he said after ggg fought dervy Alvarez said. "They may have wanted the Triple G fight, but as I said before, he represents no challenge for me, so I didn't feel any pressure (to make the third fight)."

so pretty clearly he did not want the fight. after a long layoff ggg said yeah ill fight you after a tune up and you are trying to blame the fight not happening on ggg after alvarez rejected it several times? after dazn begge and pleaded with canelo to make it several time and he refused? wow what a crazy combination of confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance

and lmao beterbiev just beat the #1 guy who had beaten the #1 guy. thats not legit? callum smith beat groves who was #1 by default meaning he never beat a top guy and then callum lost to john ryder. how you can pretend that beterbiev isnt worthy and callum smith is? come on!

[kidbazooka]

you do know canelo rejected the third ggg fight first right? when it was actually relevant Alvarez said. "They may have wanted the Triple G fight, but as I said before, he represents no challenge for me, so I didn't feel any pressure (to make the third fight)."

then he said after ggg fought dervy Alvarez said. "They may have wanted the Triple G fight, but as I said before, he represents no challenge for me, so I didn't feel any pressure (to make the third fight)."

so pretty clearly he did not want the fight. after a long layoff ggg said yeah ill fight you after a tune up and you are trying to blame the fight not happening on ggg after alvarez rejected it several times? after dazn begge and pleaded with canelo to make it several time and he refused? wow what a crazy combination of confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance

and lmao beterbiev just beat the #1 guy who had beaten the #1 guy. thats not legit? callum smith beat groves who was #1 by default meaning he never beat a top guy and then callum lost to john ryder. how you can pretend that beterbiev isnt worthy and callum smith is? come on!

Ggg rejected the fight when canelo wanted first then that’s when canelo said we’ll make him waite only AFTER Ggg acted like a little diva.

Dude no one knows nor cares about a guy like butterbiv he’s a non factor and if/when canelo beats that stiff you know damn well everyone will say “no not fair Bittbive is already 35 yrs old canelo shudda faced him at his best when he was 33” lol that’s how the haters work when it comes to canelo they love going full retrddd.

YOU KNOW IT!!!!

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Off topic but i wonder how Canelo career would of went if Miguel Cotto had stopped him when he had him wobbled real sliding doors moment.

Should of been counted a KD since the ropes held Canelo up.

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Ggg rejected the fight when canelo wanted first then that’s when canelo said we’ll make him waite only AFTER Ggg acted like a little diva.

Dude no one knows nor cares about a guy like butterbiv he’s a non factor and if/when canelo beats that stiff you know damn well everyone will say “no not fair Bittbive is already 35 yrs old canelo shudda faced him at his best when he was 33” lol that’s how the haters work when it comes to canelo they love going full retrddd.

YOU KNOW IT!!!!

yeah you have no idea what you are saying. fanboy alert. ggg wanted the third fight and canelo said NO! he has to win a belt first! then ggg won a belt and canelo said i already beat him hes not a challenge! so you should probably do some more research. dazn badly wanted the fight and canelo simply refused to oblige them.

no one knows who callum smith is either so that argument makes no sense at all. difference is beterbiev is dangerous and callum smith isnt so canelo took the easy fight. difference is beterbieve isnt coming off a pathetic performance against a fringe contender like callum smith is, hes coming off a crushing performance against the best guy in the division. beating beterbiev is worth a hell of a lot more than beating callum smith and everyon knows it. just the fact that you are pretending callum smith is more worthy than beterbiev gives away your agenda. nice try. stamp the fanboy label on your forehead you are hopeless

[kidbazooka]

Off topic but i wonder how Canelo career would of went if Miguel Cotto had stopped him when he had him wobbled real sliding doors moment.

Should of been counted a KD since the ropes held Canelo up.

I remember that but I think you’re referring to Jose cotto Miguel’s brother.

I believe it was a temple shot and canelo was like 19-20 yrs old so yea he was a straight kid but a shot like that would wobble iron chin guys i recall Marvin Hagler getting wobbled the same way with a temple shot yet he was known for a granit chin.

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Off topic but i wonder how Canelo career would of went if Miguel Cotto had stopped him when he had him wobbled real sliding doors moment.

Should of been counted a KD since the ropes held Canelo up.

you mean jose miguel cotto. yeah that would have derailed him but he was clearly draining himself to make 147 and then 154/152 so it might have helped him and forced him to move up. ward had a similar moment at 160 early in his career where he was almost stopped. floyd obv took note of how weak canelo was upon dropping weight and seized on the opportunity. he had nothing that fight. it was like dawson vs ward but floyd was still pot shotting lol while ward was getting to dawson and stopped the zombie

[kidbazooka]

yeah you have no idea what you are saying. fanboy alert. ggg wanted the third fight and canelo said NO! he has to win a belt first! then ggg won a belt and canelo said i already beat him hes not a challenge! so you should probably do some more research. dazn badly wanted the fight and canelo simply refused to oblige them.

no one knows who callum smith is either so that argument makes no sense at all. difference is beterbiev is dangerous and callum smith isnt so canelo took the easy fight. difference is beterbieve isnt coming off a pathetic performance against a fringe contender like callum smith is, hes coming off a crushing performance against the best guy in the division. beating beterbiev is worth a hell of a lot more than beating callum smith and everyon knows it. just the fact that you are pretending callum smith is more worthy than beterbiev gives away your agenda. nice try. stamp the fanboy label on your forehead you are hopeless

Hater Alert hater alert!!!!!!

You really think more ppl know or care about butterbiv than Smith who has all of England behind him gtfo yet bittbiv is literally a complete unknown so don’t even go there.

That’s the problem with you haters you spin it to fit you’re hating mentality and facts mean nothing to you guys. Lol

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cept he's not. he just lost to john ryder and even if he had won that fight he would have been a #1 by default aka everyone else losing and or leaving which is what happened to make groves #1 and then they fought and smith won, good job there but then he just lost so bad job there

Who’s ranked higher than him?