Enroll Spence making excuses

[Combat Talk Radio]

In fairness, Bud doesn't seem to want that fight either. Never has

[Boxing Goat]

Who's 'Shawn'?

Not sure how that's relevant to my comment.

Bud never calls out Spence and never really has.

The most he's ever said is that they will fight when the money is right.

My argument is that the fight should happen now and Crawford is saying things like, "if I don't fight Spence, my legacy is already secured", while asking for fights with Pacquiao, who is about to be 42!

[Mindgames]

Again, based on what? Mikey has never been hurt before and knows how to survive. Many HW's should have stopped James Toney, who started at 160 as well.

Point proven

No ,James Toney fought a shot Holyfield who was injured,a guy who was never top level in Ruiz,and a crude Samuel Peter. If hed fought the true premiere man at heavy ,Lennox Lewis hed likely have been stopped .If Lewis hadn't stopped Toney hed have got alot of criticism. Errols own hype is that hes the most ferocious Welter ,who regularly crushed bigger men for fun.He performed below expectation for the hype.Point not proven .

[Combat Talk Radio]

Who's 'Shawn'?

Not sure how that's relevant to my comment.

Bud never calls out Spence and never really has.

The most he's ever said is that they will fight when the money is right.

My argument is that the fight should happen now and Crawford is saying things like, "if I don't fight Spence, my legacy is already secured", while asking for fights with Pacquiao, who is about to be 42!

And I shared the real reason Crawford won't get Spence, straight from Arum.

It's because Crawford refuses to earn the fight against Shawn (Porter), which if he took and won that, would nullify Porter's IBF and WBC mandatories while cleaning up his own. Spence would basically be forced to fight him.

[BoxingIsGreat]

I know why Spence's emphasizing boxing. He has to protect that fragile jaw all night in this fight. One serious hard punch to the chin and Spence might be stopped.

Garcia by ref or corner stoppage.

[sicko]

He won both fights and he Dominated Mikey Garcia from Start to Finish so I really see no point to even "Make Excuses" or to "Give A Reason" why he won those fights the way he won them

When you're fighting Top level Fighters, Knockouts are Less Likely just like I don't think he will Stop Danny Garcia if he beats him on Saturday either because Danny has a IRON CHIN

So it is no need to justify your wins over Top Competition! If he was struggling with lower lever competition then that would be different

[Boxing Goat]

And I shared the real reason Crawford won't get Spence, straight from Arum.

It's because Crawford refuses to earn the fight against Shawn (Porter), which if he took and won that, would nullify Porter's IBF and WBC mandatories while cleaning up his own. Spence would basically be forced to fight him.

So, you think he should 'earn' a fight with Spence ?

I hope I'm reading that wrong

[Boxing Goat]

No ,James Toney fought a shot Holyfield who was injured,a guy who was never top level in Ruiz,and a crude Samuel Peter. If hed fought the true premiere man at heavy ,Lennox Lewis hed likely have been stopped .If Lewis hadn't stopped Toney hed have got alot of criticism. Errols own hype is that hes the most ferocious Welter ,who regularly crushed bigger men for fun.He performed below expectation for the hype.Point not proven .

I think you've missed the point. Both Peter and Holyfield were both naturally way bigger than Toney and had more than enough power to KO him. His skill, etc. prevented that from happening. So until it's proven that Mikey would be stopped by anyone at all, Spence isn't just automatically supposed to stop him.

[Curt Henning]

Who's 'Shawn'?

Not sure how that's relevant to my comment.

Bud never calls out Spence and never really has.

The most he's ever said is that they will fight when the money is right.

My argument is that the fight should happen now and Crawford is saying things like, "if I don't fight Spence, my legacy is already secured", while asking for fights with Pacquiao, who is about to be 42!

remember when bud/pac was such a logical and easy fight to make? but they kept shooting it down and bob acted like he was saving pac from something when in reality he just didnt want to pony up the money

but then the pbc ponied up the money and put pac in with a big name and it produced a pac win and an entertaining fight...and then bob kept screaming how pac/bud needs to happen? lol...those guys wanted no parts of pac till pac till pac did something to re-raise his profile.....

thats how these guys operate....they kept saying porters name before, and right after, the mean machine fight...then kenny porter said "call us" and alluded to him having als blessing...and they did a 180 within a week with bud on camera saying "thats not on our radar"...lol

[Mindgames]

I think you've missed the point. Both Peter and Holyfield were both naturally way bigger than Toney and had more than enough power to KO him. His skill, etc. prevented that from happening. So until it's proven that Mikey would be stopped by anyone at all, Spence isn't just automatically supposed to stop him.

No I got your point.I was saying that if someone is a special talent and hold all the physical advantages,and is a true destroyer ,you destroy the smaller man.Not just a good bigger guy vs a tough smaller man.I mean a bigger destroyer.Hearns Cuevas,Hearns Duran ,Tyson Spinks ,ect.It doesn't make Spence rubbish,it just doesn't live up to the highest expectations. The way Spence and hes camp talked about him.