How Do You Determine When a Fighter Quits?

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  • KTFOKING
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    How Do You Determine When a Fighter Quits?

    A lot of the talk after Dubois/Joyce revolved around Dubois quitting but it was later revealed that Dubois has a broken eye socket and potential nerve damage. So do you still consider Dubois "quitting" if you had this opinion after the fight?

    How about for the following fights:

    Brook vs Spence
    Joshua vs Ruiz
    Cotto vs Margarito
    GMan vs Benn
    Klitschko vs Byrd

    Do you consider all these quit jobs or the fight being beaten out the losing fighter? How do differniate that, if you do at all? Does it matter after the fact when the injury revealed?
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    It's not really arguable. If a guy quits he quits.

    I think the issue is some dipsh^t fans think a guy needs to be near death or unconscious to lose a fight. That's fooking silly.

    This is a brutal sport & waving the white flag instead of getting knocked senseless or receiving severe damage is still saying you are second best on the day. You just give yourself a better chance to not be second best in future fights by white flagging today when you &/or your body has had enough.

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    • Toffee
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      I think we all wish McClellan had quit earlier.

      Personally, I don't like the quit talk at all. And a young man taking punches on a broken eye socket and feeling nerve impacts certainly doesn't qualify for the term 'quitter'.

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      • RoyJonesJrp4pno1
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        #4
        Originally posted by Toffee
        I think we all wish McClellan had quit earlier.

        Personally, I don't like the quit talk at all. And a young man taking punches on a broken eye socket and feeling nerve impacts certainly doesn't qualify for the term 'quitter'.
        I don't have any problem with a fighter quitting as long as they give their best effort to win before they do it. Dying in the ring is completely unnecessary.

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        • uppercut510
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          #5
          It is what it is, he quit, must work on head movement and bounce back

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          • ShaneMosleySr
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            #6
            You quit when you take a knee after a jab, stay on your knee until popping up gleefully at 10.5 seconds to shrug your shoulders and say oh well.

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            • Roadblock
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              There are two ways to quit, on youre stool or you quit trying to win, both ways youre mentally done, a lot of guys are mentally beaten more than physically beaten, they still getting beat up its just they are not being over whelmed, if they were lit up at the right time they quit.

              To quit a fight is the worst defeat, but I try not to judge them as the nature of boxing is raw hurt it can be a lonely place when youre on the end of a beating in front of a lot of spectators, it will sort out the talkers from the doers thats for sure.

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              • IronDanHamza
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                If a fighter refuses to carry on fighting then by definition they’ve quit.

                Some are more justifiable than others. That’s down to your individuals views.

                Some would say a smashed eye socket is a legitimate reason to quit, someone would certainly disagree with that.

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                • PredatorStyle
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                  He quit and all those you listed quit. It is just a fact. No other factors can alter that.

                  What you can do is be more forgiving of them when it's found they had a serious injury. No one will ever get praise for quitting in a brutal sport like this. The point of violence to destroy the opponent. Wanting them to leave the ring safely is an arbitrary condition that leads to wacky reasoning.

                  I can't condemn someone for wanting to save his eyesight but I won't praise him either.

                  Inoue fought from the 2nd round with exactly the same injury.

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                  • KTFOKING
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                    It's not really arguable. If a guy quits he quits.

                    I think the issue is some dipsh^t fans think a guy needs to be near death or unconscious to lose a fight. That's fooking silly.

                    This is a brutal sport & waving the white flag instead of getting knocked senseless or receiving severe damage is still saying you are second best on the day. You just give yourself a better chance to not be second best in future fights by white flagging today when you &/or your body has had enough.
                    Interesting viewpoint. So do you see corner stoppages a little different when the corner asks the fighter if they are good and they may say they are good but don't make it clear enough that they want to continue? For example, how do you view Lamont against Errol?

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