Are Boxers Today Punching Much Harder Than Past?

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  • OldTerry
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    #21
    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
    No.

    Jesse Owen's was running 10.2/3 on mud tracks, wearing heavy leather running shoes while training and living off food-stamps.

    Tyson Fury for example? Has access to all the best sports nutrition and sport science, even still he is 'Out of condition compared to the past heavyweights' I don't think athletes have evolved as much as people claim etc
    Your comment about Jesse Owens is interesting. A while back I read an article that compared his achievements to the best track athletes of our day. The analysis included a detail study of what the hard composite material tracks and shoes had added to the performances seen in our day. Jesse Owen's achievements when adjusted for these differences would still be world class. Similarly some of the longest recorded home runs were hit by Mickey Mantle in the 1950s and 1960s.

    On March 26, 1951 the Yankees played an exhibition game with the USC baseball team at Bovard Field, USC. Mantle, batting left-handed hit a homer that traveled 656-feet, crossing a football field adjacent to the ballpark. On May 22, 1963 at Yankee Stadium Mantle hit a home run that would have left the ballpark had it not hit a facade on the front side of the roof above the third deck in right-field. Estimates by observers are that the ball would have traveled 734' if it had not been impeded (I think they are being a bit generous here).
    Last edited by OldTerry; 11-29-2020, 06:17 PM. Reason: spelling

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    • KingOfGlory
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      #22
      People romanticize the "good old days" because Americans were the only ones seriously competing. Now that the sport has developed internationally people conveniently claim that we live in a "weak era".

      Saying a 50 year old Mike Tyson could compete with today's heavyweights is laughable. No other sport faces such idiotic comments.

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      • OldTerry
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        #23
        Originally posted by KingOfGlory
        People romanticize the "good old days" because Americans were the only ones seriously competing. Now that the sport has developed internationally people conveniently claim that we live in a "weak era".

        Saying a 50 year old Mike Tyson could compete with today's heavyweights is laughable. No other sport faces such idiotic comments.
        Let's compare apples to apples. A 19 or 20 year old Mike Tyson would be destroying most of today's heavyweights.

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        • Mike_b
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          #24
          Hasim Rahman and mount whitiker had tremendous power with just arm punches.

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          • Legends456
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            #25
            Originally posted by HeadShots
            How many past greats have broken orbital bones?

            These days

            Margarito
            Kell Brook
            Dubois
            Inoue
            Oscar also got his eye socket fractured against Pac


            That is just within the last 3 years or so.


            WTF is going on with all these broken eye sockets?
            I believe that current fighters have lower bone density.
            Humanity is devolving in my opinion.

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            • GhostofDempsey
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              #26
              No. Hard punches were around since the beginning of the sport. Many a fighter has had orbital bones broken, cheekbones, concussions, broken ribs, etc. this is nothing new. Pick up a boxing book or two about boxing history.

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              • Roadblock
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                #27
                It was a blanket question, are boxers punching harder, are tennis players serving faster on average, has the speed of baseball increased are they hitting the ball further, are they kicking a ball further, are swimmers clocking faster times on average, a people running faster on average.

                Off course they are, the key is on average, you will always have the very elite that wont change much over many generations, but the rest of the group will continue to rise with better teaching nutrition and scientific training.

                As for boxing the "average" across them all will punch harder faster are more explosive and have better technique , a great puncher today will be no different to a great puncher many years ago, but I bet over a 1000 fighters from then to a 1000 now the average is better everywhere.

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                • Mike_b
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                  #28
                  Malignaggi Cotto, another broken eye socket for the magic man

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                  • HeadShots
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Legends456
                    I believe that current fighters have lower bone density.
                    Humanity is devolving in my opinion.
                    yet people are growing taller all over the world.

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                    • Jdasilva2012
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                      #30
                      Today fighters can feel safe that there are no more Thomas Hearns, "Mano de Piedra" Durans, Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. amount others scary punchers.

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