Are Boxers Today Punching Much Harder Than Past?

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  • deathofaclown
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    #11
    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
    No.

    Jesse Owen's was running 10.2/3 on mud tracks, wearing heavy leather running shoes while training and living off food-stamps.

    Tyson Fury for example? Has access to all the best sports nutrition and sport science, but he is still lets face it 'Out of condition compared to the past heavyweights' I don't think athletes have evolved as much as people claim etc

    You’re in denial

    Boxers today would smash fighters from the past, it is what it is.

    No worth being too bothered about , athletes evolve so it’s not worth comparing era’s.

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    • elfag
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      #12
      Originally posted by Stuntman Mike
      I think its more the easy access to social media and finding out this aftermath information

      Im sure theres been plenty fractured orbital bones in the sport that just hasnt come to light,probably not the best thing to let future opponanta know aswell

      That seems pretty true, I mean in the mid 90s and earlier, if someone had a swollen eye you might think ok that happens all the time. Then the only way you would ever find out if it was broken would be to read it in a newspaper, magazine ect and the fighters camps could more easily lie to those people and say everything was fine.

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      • aboutfkntime
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        #13
        Originally posted by HeadShots
        How many past greats have broken orbital bones?

        These days

        Margarito
        Kell Brook
        Dubois
        Inoue
        Oscar also got his eye socket fractured against Pac


        That is just within the last 3 years or so.


        WTF is going on with all these broken eye sockets?




        Originally posted by SN!PER
        Yes... they do hit harder.

        Better nutrition, training, sports science, medical technology, etc.

        We're creating an army of super athletes and breaking records in all sports.




        omg, that "modern blah blah" junk again


        no... there have always been murderous punchers, and there have always been fractured orbital bones


        we changed the rules/gloves/etc to stop people dying LMAO


        if that "modern blah blah" junk was true, fighters would easily last 12 rounds... not gas out in 6 like MANY fighters do today... 15 rounds, remember

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          #14
          Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
          No.

          Jesse Owen's was running 10.2/3 on mud tracks, wearing heavy leather running shoes while training and living off food-stamps.

          Tyson Fury for example? Has access to all the best sports nutrition and sport science, even still he is 'Out of condition compared to the past heavyweights' I don't think athletes have evolved as much as people claim etc



          bingo !

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          • OldTerry
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            #15
            My guess is that there have always been hard punchers. Joe Louis' left hook was devastating as was Mike Tyson's.

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            • PRINCEKOOL
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              #16
              Originally posted by deathofaclown
              You’re in denial

              Boxers today would smash fighters from the past, it is what it is.

              No worth being too bothered about , athletes evolve so it’s not worth comparing era’s.
              Tyson Fury most likely spends hundreds of pounds per month of sports supplements, he also works with all these fancy personal trainers and is still out of condition mate.

              Jesse Owens could run 10.2/3 on mud tracks, wearing heavy leather running shoes while living off food-stamps. Most likely only Usain Bolt and maybe a few other of the recent all-time great sprinters of the past 20-30 years would be able to duplicate such a performance.

              It is hard to measure boxing performance, but you do have visual observations of technique 'And intensity'.

              I believe the best heavyweight fight of the past 20 years was Wladimir Kiltschko vs Anthony Joshua etc The era has been extremely competitive but poor in terms of pure ability.

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              • Jefferson Jazzw
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                #17
                I honestly believe men were tougher when they worked more with their hands and didnt have the social media distractions. I dont know if its true or not but i have heard the average mans grip isnt as strong as it used to be.

                There has always been brutal injuries and even deaths in boxing so i wouldnt say boxers punch harder now then they used to

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                • deathofaclown
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                  Tyson Fury most likely spends hundreds of pounds per month of sports supplements, he also works with all these fancy personal trainers and is still out of condition mate.

                  Jesse Owens could run 10.2/3 on mud tracks, wearing heavy leather running shoes while living off food-stamps. Most likely only Usain Bolt and maybe a few other of the recent all-time great sprinters of the past 20-30 years would be able to duplicate such a performance.

                  It is hard to measure boxing performance, but you do have visual observations of technique 'And intensity'.

                  I believe the best heavyweight fight of the past 20 years was Wladimir Kiltschko vs Anthony Joshua etc Apart from that, the era has been extremely competitive but poor in terms of pure ability.


                  We can disagree because there’s no definitive measurement for boxing

                  But across the board in the sporting world, facts are on my side that athletes are way better.

                  Fury out of condition ? Yet never gassed like other fighters do. You fall in to the trap of looking at bodies.

                  Even when he fought Wlad, Wlad was exhausted at the end and Fury was singing Aerosmith lol

                  You sound like a real casual to be honest. No wonder your date of registering was about the same time as AJ’s rise in popularity
                  Last edited by deathofaclown; 11-29-2020, 06:00 PM.

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                  • FinitoxDinamita
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                    #19
                    Punching power comes from technique and placement also and I think old school fighters punched better.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                      No.

                      Jesse Owen's was running 10.2/3 on mud tracks, wearing heavy leather running shoes while training and living off food-stamps.

                      Tyson Fury for example? Has access to all the best sports nutrition and sport science, even still he is 'Out of condition compared to the past heavyweights' I don't think athletes have evolved as much as people claim etc

                      Tyson Fury is 6'9. 260 lbs that can box 12 rounds.


                      size matters.

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