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  • Sid-Knee
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    #31
    Originally posted by Fire4231
    Andy get your self in shape and go beat down Dillian Whyte.
    Andy ran away from the opportunity for millions. I think he knows it's beatings all the way from now on. Just like Wilder knows.

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    • ELPacman
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      #32
      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
      The rematch was 6 months later. Not 6 weeks. Andy knows what he signed with the contract so it's not like it came out of the blue. Do you expect AJ to hang around waiting for this idiot to celebrate for a year or something and stay out of the ring himself in all that time?

      AJ never stayed out of the ring for every belt he won and celebrated. He's a professional. It's not his fault Andy is poorly disciplined and obese. This is the long game, not a sprint. It's been the same for over a hundred years. Maybe that message hasn't reached Andy yet either.
      lol, you basically said in a more angry tone everything I did already, lol.

      I agree that he's poorly disciplined and obese. With that said, there is now way with all that in mind and the overnight success that he was going to have any chance to get himself back into winning shape for the rematch. 6 months is relatively short when you think about it in the fight game. Most guys can go over a year before a rematch. Andy spent most of those 6 months just basking in the glory of the win. Like I said, I saw him on a few talk shows, so it was all about discussing how he pulled off the crazy upset and in the end, didn't train enough for the rematch. He deserved the loss, no doubt.

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      • GTaylor
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        #33
        Ruiz is an embarrassment! He disrespected everything there is about being a world champion.

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        • SN!PER
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          #34
          Originally posted by Catch n shoot
          You got this Ruiz! Dude you won the world title!! You can get it back surely as you gained it!
          Absolutely.

          Tyson Fury was out of the sport for 3 years, weighed 400 lbs., and he came back and won the title.

          If Andy defeats his inner demons, anything is possible.

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          • Sid-Knee
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            #35
            Originally posted by ELPacman
            lol, you basically said in a more angry tone everything I did already, lol.

            I agree that he's poorly disciplined and obese. With that said, there is now way with all that in mind and the overnight success that he was going to have any chance to get himself back into winning shape for the rematch. 6 months is relatively short when you think about it in the fight game. Most guys can go over a year before a rematch. Andy spent most of those 6 months just basking in the glory of the win. Like I said, I saw him on a few talk shows, so it was all about discussing how he pulled off the crazy upset and in the end, didn't train enough for the rematch. He deserved the loss, no doubt.
            Most big time fighters fight twice a year. That's every 6 months. He had plenty of time.

            Andy still had 4 months in camp after partying for 2 months. It doesn't look like that though considering how he turned up.

            But as i say, AJ didn't do that when he won his titles. He kept it professional like you're supposed to. Anyone who wants to stay on top needs that focus if they're serious about this game.

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            • 4truth
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              #36
              Originally posted by Sid-Knee
              No matter what shape Andy came in, he wasn't leaving with those titles. AJ made a mistake with trying to take him out after dropping him and paid the price. He wasn't making that mistake again. AJ would have dominated like he did.

              It's not like Andy moved faster on his feet beforehand either so he did all he could. It wasn't close to being enough. AJ got back what was rightfully his.
              Got back what was rightfully his? Turns out, if you get knocked out the title rightfully goes to the guy who knocked you out.

              Also, “dominated” is an odd way to describe a fight where the winner was literally afraid to engage. Brilliant strategy but dominating isn’t the word that comes to mind to describe that performance.

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              • PBR Streetgang
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                #37
                Andy is a skilled fighter. Fast hands, decent pop and a great chin. His shortcomings all seem to stem from the fatal flaw of being undisciplined: slow feet, undersized (not weight but height and length) and limited punch output. If he was more disciplined, he'd weigh less be a little more nimble and probably have more stamina to throw more leather.

                That's been his undoing for a while. Had he let his hands go more against Parker, he would have had a better chance to beat him in New Zealand. It's why he had uninspired fights against guys he should have dominated (Kingpin Johnson comes to mind).

                Beating AJ didn't start the fires of being undisciplined, it was merely the gasoline poured on something already burning.

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                • Zelda
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                  #38
                  Two trainers are trying to make a name for themselves for being kicked out by their fighters - Robles and Ben Davison. Robles is interviewed because of Ruiz vs Joshua while Davison for Wilder vs Fury. Soon Mark Breland will join the club.

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                  • Boricua181
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                    No matter what shape Andy came in, he wasn't leaving with those titles. AJ made a mistake with trying to take him out after dropping him and paid the price. He wasn't making that mistake again. AJ would have dominated like he did.

                    It's not like Andy moved faster on his feet beforehand either so he did all he could. It wasn't close to being enough. AJ got back what was rightfully his.
                    Titles don't rightfully belong to any particular fighter. Fighters have to win the title, then defend, and retain the title on a continuous basis. That just makes them the current holder of that particular title. After getting dropped so damn hard, Ruiz got up with a vengeance, and trounced Joshua. Your opinion doesn't negate, or trump anyone else's, it's simply your opinion 1, out of millions of others. My opinion which like your's is just 1, out of millions of others is contrary to your. I believe that if had had come in similar shape, or slightly lighter he could've beaten Joshua again in the same manner. That's because Ruiz has very quick hands, combinations, good power, and a sturdy chin. Ruiz didn't respect the title he had so gallantly won, by coming in 15 1/2 pounds heavier at 283 1/2. Joshua on the other hand weighed in 10 pounds lighter at 237, the rest is history.
                    Last edited by Boricua181; 11-24-2020, 10:47 PM. Reason: Had to change a name.

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                    • whollisboxing
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                      No matter what shape Andy came in, he wasn't leaving with those titles. AJ made a mistake with trying to take him out after dropping him and paid the price. He wasn't making that mistake again. AJ would have dominated like he did.

                      It's not like Andy moved faster on his feet beforehand either so he did all he could. It wasn't close to being enough. AJ got back what was rightfully his.
                      I agree that the best AJ beats the best Ruiz, however it was still disappointing to see Andy come in out of shape for the biggest fight of his career.

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