So iron chinned McCall lost by KO to Frank Bruno huh? Thats interesting i remember differently perhaps you want to check your facts.
I dont remember Lewis losing to Vitali either? im sure he won by TKO and retired.
Do you live in some sort of alternate reality?
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McCall and Rahman although not great would both be top5 in this era. Both losses were avenged so like it or not he beat every man he ever fought.—————-
What about Haseem Rahman and Oliver McCall? Do you think they would have dominated this era?
“Beat every man he ever fought”!! Floyd, Calzaghe, Ward, all beat every man they ever fought in the truest sense.
When you say it that way, one would think Lewis retired undefeated. He got knocked out by two journeymen.Leave a comment:
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Lewis is a ****. Has always been a ****. His ****ishness is obvious. He should just close his **** and let the boxing world move on. Without the correct ref, Tyson would have beat him. His mouth reminds me of a ****.Leave a comment:
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————-He beat both in the rematch. So yeah, he beat every man he ever faced. It isn't too hard to understand that simple fact.
Floyd ducked for most of his career and cherry picked like a woman.
Ward lost the Kovalev fights. The first one on points even after he had to clinch and hit without the crooked ref taking any points or stopping him from doing so after Kovalev started busting him up and dropping him. Ward knew what was coming if he didn't cheat for most of the fight after getting up. He still lost though and got a robbery.
The rematch had Kovalev winning 5-2 on anyones scorecard if they know how to score a fight properly. But in the 8th, Ward rocked Kovalev, then proceeded to whack him the balls repeatedly until another crooked ref stopped the fight unfairly and let Ward get away with more cheating and corruption.
And they weren't journeymen either. Rahman had good victories outside of the Lewis win. Many great fighters have lost to good world class fighters or less. McCall was decent, he didn't have any good wins going in, but he wasn't a journeyman. Same thing with Randy Turpin going into the Robinson fight. He was a decent fighter without any good wins going in. But would you say Robinson lost to a journeyman? Of course you wouldn't. That would be ******. Same thing with McCall and Lewis.
I don’t suppose you have some critique about Calzaghe not beating everyone he ever faced?
You clearly don’t like Floyd or Ward so tell us how Calzaghe was awful.
Apart from the spectacular KO losses that Lewis suffered, he also got beat by Vitali and only the eye injury saved him from another loss. Ray Mercer also beat him and he got a gift decision. I’m sure you can defend that too?
Can you tell us the “good wins” that Rahman had? Prior to KO’ing Lewis, Rahman got blasted out the ring by Maskaev and got KO’d by David Tua. He still managed to KO the greatest HW in history.
McCall had 5 losses including a KO loss to Frank Bruno and yet he still managed to KO Lennox.
Rahman and McCall aren’t even in the top 40 HW boxers of all time yet somehow you want us to believe they were good?
Dude, you are trying so hard to convince us that Rahman or McCall were good just to elevate Lewis to a place he doesn’t belong.Leave a comment:
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AJ fans were pissed because he unfairly classed AJ as the problem when it came to money. AJ was the one generating that money and was entitled to it. Wilder however was the greedy coward who deluded himself into thinking he was worth half the money when he couldn't even sell out a 14,000 seater arena and generate much. That's why he was only paid 2.1 Mill for the Ortiz fight.
It was bullshlt. Anybody who disagrees, is as deluded as Wilder himself. And Lennox is my favourite fighter in history before you call me biased or some other nonsense.Leave a comment:
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He beat both in the rematch. So yeah, he beat every man he ever faced. It isn't too hard to understand that simple fact.—————-
What about Haseem Rahman and Oliver McCall? Do you think they would have dominated this era?
“Beat every man he ever fought”!! Floyd, Calzaghe, Ward, all beat every man they ever fought in the truest sense.
When you say it that way, one would think Lewis retired undefeated. He got knocked out by two journeymen.
Floyd ducked for most of his career and cherry picked like a woman.
Ward lost the Kovalev fights. The first one on points even after he had to clinch and hit without the crooked ref taking any points or stopping him from doing so after Kovalev started busting him up and dropping him. Ward knew what was coming if he didn't cheat for most of the fight after getting up. He still lost though and got a robbery.
The rematch had Kovalev winning 5-2 on anyones scorecard if they know how to score a fight properly. But in the 8th, Ward rocked Kovalev, then proceeded to whack him the balls repeatedly until another crooked ref stopped the fight unfairly and let Ward get away with more cheating and corruption.
So no, neither are like Lewis in any way. It's actually offensive to even suggest that level of nonsense. Lewis was a real fighter from start to finish in a way they most certainly weren't.
And they weren't journeymen either. Rahman had good victories outside of the Lewis win. Many great fighters have lost to good world class fighters or less. McCall was decent, he didn't have any good wins going in, but he wasn't a journeyman. Same thing with Randy Turpin going into the Robinson fight. He was a decent fighter without any good wins going in. But would you say Robinson lost to a journeyman? Of course you wouldn't. That would be ******. Same thing with McCall and Lewis.Leave a comment:
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Or he realised he was a finished fighter and was there for the wrong reasons?
At least Lennox got in there and beat Vitali. Can't say the same for Vitali though the way he put Chisora in front of Haye before he would be willing to fight him. When Haye wreaked him and did his post fight interview, he said Vitali wouldn't fight him. He said he'd fight a bum instead and walk away. That's exactly what happened.
Why didn't Vitali even try and beat a former Cruiserweight? Why put a roadblock in there and still duck the fight after he'd beaten the roadblock? Do to Haye what Lennox did to him? He didn't even dare.Leave a comment:
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He took a finished looking Lewis to school? The difference was on a single round at 4-2 Vitali. Lewis made the mistake of trying to box from the outside and get his jab going, but he was done. He spent over a year out at 37 because he knew he had done everything he wanted to do in the sport. Once that's set, you're not getting it back. But he thought he could come waltzing back as champ and beat anyone without even trying. It doesn't work like that. You have to really want to be there or you'll get found out.
Vitali was a whole lot more than the quitting reputation he had by the Americans. But he was dominating Byrd before an injury came about that wasn't even inflicted by Byrd. But he pulled out. He shouldn't have. He should have found a way with one arm just to get through it and beat Bryd. But hey, he made his decision. He had a point to prove when he fought Lewis and Lewis didn't expect it. But after attempting to box and failing because he didn't have it any more, he went to war and fought and grabbed that victory by the scruff of the neck and stopped him. If it wasn't for those cuts to Vitali's face and mouth, Lewis would have stopped him in the next couple of rounds as Lennox was now beating the shlt out of him while he was holding on for dear life at the end.
But they'd be no rematch. Lewis knew he couldn't do it again because he was there for the wrong reasons and got a shock. But pride got in the way, which is understandable. I'm just glad his mum had a word with him and told him to be honest with himself. Which he was. So he retired. It was the right thing to do. Pride has kept many fighters in there too long for the wrong reasons and it never works out. No matter how many times it happens to a fighter, others don't take notice and they repeat the ******ity all over again. Lennox didn't. That was the right call to make.Leave a comment:
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