Comments Thread For: Lennox Lewis: I'm Still The Undisputed Champion

[Oregonian]

Calzaghe did beat everyone he ever faced. That's why i didn't include him. And he was ducked for most of his career. Calzaghe wasn't the one doing the ducking.

Vitali didn't beat Lewis. But please be delusional if you want. The difference of a round ahead doesn't make you the winner, especially when you get stopped after 6 rounds.

That wasn't an injury. they were injuries. Vitali had to have so many stitches he looked like Frankensteins monster. Plus he was holding on for dear life in the 6th and was ready to go in another round or two.

Mercer didn't beat Lewis either. That's more of your delusion. Close fights doesn't mean it automatically goes to the American fighter. You're far too used to your constant robberies i see. But what rounds did Mercer win?

Rahman had good wins over Kali Meehan and corrie Sanders. Meehan beat Brewster but got ripped off. Corrie beat Wlad. Rahman also has a draw against Tua.

McCall was decent so he didn't have any good wins.
Bruno beat McCall on points. He didn't KO him.

You're only good if you're in the top 40 in history? You believe everyone outside of the top 40 is not good and isn't world class? That has to be one of the most ******est things i've ever read. And i've read some seriously ****** things from you just in this one post.

Lewis has a long list of quality wins that no other Heavyweight does. No one comes close to the depth of resume he has. But if you want a fighter who is considered the best without having the merit to be there and had many a robbery, look no further than Ali himself. Shavers, Norton x2, Young, loosening the ropes against Foreman, using illegal smelling salts against Cooper after getting beat up and dropped for 4 rounds. Ali should have been DQ'd.

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I always make sure to be respectful when responding to people even when I vehemently disagree with them. I even wrote that in my earlier response to you.

“Automatically goes tip the American fighter” - your first ignorance right there and now I get why you’re so up Lewis’ bälls. He’s your fellow Brits.

Lastly, you belittling Ali just shows what an ignorant buffoon you are. Your reality is just yours - Delusions of grandeur.

Every expert, historian, analyst, retired and active boxers plus fans around the globe have Ali as the GOAT & a moron like you wants us to believe that a guy that got KO’d by journeymen is greater. GTFOH!

[The D3vil]

We all know Wilder ducked. He ducked regardless of how grotesque the money offers got. So you're wrong. 15 Mill is not a lowball for a nobody like Wilder. Lennox Lewis didn't even get that when unifying against Holyfield at MSG. So give your head a wobble.

I'm not going over that fake 50 Mill offer any more. F3ck that. Good night.

Yes, the "fake" offer that UK newspapers wrote about as very real about their own guy.

And yeah, Holyfield fought Lennox in 1997.

Maybe not the best thing to try to compare purses from almost 25 years ago to purses today, champ.

[Sid-Knee]

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Like Canelo and Mayweather before him.

AJ is the cash cow in boxing.

Fights happen when they want them to happen.

They lowballed Wilder because they didn't want to fight him until Fury had already made him look vulnerable, just like Canelo wanted no parts of GGG until Jacobs & Brook made him look vulnerable.

Joshua admitted he was turning down $50 million to fight Wilder in America because he wanted to fight in the UK
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2...der-us-insist/

We all know Wilder ducked. He ducked regardless of how grotesque the money offers got. So you're wrong. 15 Mill is not a lowball for a nobody like Wilder. Lennox Lewis didn't even get that when unifying against Holyfield at MSG. So give your head a wobble.

I'm not going over that fake 50 Mill offer any more. F3ck that. Good night.

[Sid-Knee]

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I don’t suppose you have some critique about Calzaghe not beating everyone he ever faced?
You clearly don’t like Floyd or Ward so tell us how Calzaghe was awful.

Apart from the spectacular KO losses that Lewis suffered, he also got beat by Vitali and only the eye injury saved him from another loss. Ray Mercer also beat him and he got a gift decision. I’m sure you can defend that too?

Can you tell us the “good wins” that Rahman had? Prior to KO’ing Lewis, Rahman got blasted out the ring by Maskaev and got KO’d by David Tua. He still managed to KO the greatest HW in history.
McCall had 5 losses including a KO loss to Frank Bruno and yet he still managed to KO Lennox.
Rahman and McCall aren’t even in the top 40 HW boxers of all time yet somehow you want us to believe they were good?
Dude, you are trying so hard to convince us that Rahman or McCall were good just to elevate Lewis to a place he doesn’t belong.

Calzaghe did beat everyone he ever faced. That's why i didn't include him. And he was ducked for most of his career. Calzaghe wasn't the one doing the ducking.

Vitali didn't beat Lewis. But please be delusional if you want. The difference of a round ahead doesn't make you the winner, especially when you get stopped after 6 rounds.

That wasn't an injury. they were injuries. Vitali had to have so many stitches he looked like Frankensteins monster. Plus he was holding on for dear life in the 6th and was ready to go in another round or two.

Mercer didn't beat Lewis either. That's more of your delusion. Close fights doesn't mean it automatically goes to the American fighter. You're far too used to your constant robberies i see. But what rounds did Mercer win?

Rahman had good wins over Kali Meehan and corrie Sanders. Meehan beat Brewster but got ripped off. Corrie beat Wlad. Rahman also has a draw against Tua.

McCall was decent so he didn't have any good wins. Just like Turpin didn't when he beat the P4P best in history in Robinson. It happens. History is littered with good to great fighters getting beaten by decent ones.

Bruno beat McCall on points. He didn't KO him.

You're only good if you're in the top 40 in history? You believe everyone outside of the top 40 is not good and isn't world class? That has to be one of the most ******est things i've ever read. And i've read some seriously ****** things from you just in this one post.

Lewis has a long list of quality wins that no other Heavyweight does. No one comes close to the depth of resume he has. But if you want a fighter who is considered the best without having the merit to be there and had many a robbery, look no further than Ali himself. Shavers, Norton x2, Young, loosening the ropes against Foreman, using illegal smelling salts against Cooper after getting beat up and dropped for 4 rounds. Ali should have been DQ'd.

[Ray*]

That’s why i never understood the way he jumped on the AJ hate train he was descredited and subjected to the same **** through out his career.

His hate for Joshua has many tone to it. He did the same to Fury years before AJ became a main player in the division. Until Fury promised to chin him. The man is a typical clown. Joshua was an idiot who stayed silent for a years when this clown was berating him in public, when he finally shot back at Lewis, people then wanted to talk about how Lewis was an all time great and how his criticism were objective when it was definitely not.

There are a number of reasons why he is always envious of the next British HW who might break his undisputed record in less fights than him.

He also works for PBC which means he had to toe the line like a company man. I have zero respect for him. But as a fighter? Massive respect all the way.

[Ray*]

Was a great fighter and would run through these lot, but this man is a clown nowadays, I know he never wanted Joshua or Fury to be undisputed because that would break his record, as those two have a chance to do it fast than him, especially with Joshua. His hate towards Joshua was there for all to see apart from those idiotic PBC cultists, who used this clown as their go to person when talking about their king ducking Joshua back then.

[CharlieStewart]

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Like Canelo and Mayweather before him.

AJ is the cash cow in boxing.

Fights happen when they want them to happen.

They lowballed Wilder because they didn't want to fight him until Fury had already made him look vulnerable, just like Canelo wanted no parts of GGG until Jacobs & Brook made him look vulnerable.

Joshua admitted he was turning down $50 million to fight Wilder in America because he wanted to fight in the UK
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2...der-us-insist/

Still talking about the fake 50m publicity stunt? Pathetic. Countless examples of AJ and Canelo offering guys career high pay days and being turned down. The era of floyd getting away with paying guys a flat fee of 2-5 mill On mega fights are over with. You know B sides are becoming huge divas when guys like Ortiz are turning down 8 mill and haven’t made a million in their whole career.

[CharlieStewart]

chatting ****e as always

20 yrs ago, lennox lewis was HATED by black boxing fans in the US. They were full of the same venom they've projected against AJ/Whyte etc 'he a bum, he trash, dat wannabe limey cracka a55 aint **** yo' etc

it was one of the first things i picked up on when i was new online, those old yahoo chatrooms, the boxing ones..
id go on there and type
"lennox lewis is the best hw"
they'd go mental on there.

they always rested on the 'prime mike tyson' argument too.


It didn't go unnoticed to see lennox lewis back audley harrison and david price, but legit HATE on David Haye.

https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/boxing/...two_37745.html
https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/boxing/...lts_69708.html

this was him backing audley harrison
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...on-567148.html


he's a very underhanded type of guy, very sly with his words, knows how to take little digs at people and totally blag it.

he knews audley harrison and david price were ****e, but he would exaggerate his praise for them to make himself look like the good guy.
Yet how was he on David Haye, Tyson Fury and AJ? the real guys

here read this
https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/boxing/...wis_91550.html


it's the exact same formula where he's conveniently lent support to Wilder whilst trashing AJ every single opportunity he's had.


total bs from you to claim he's 'hated' by 'matchroom/eh casuals' without even giving any attention to the relevant contexts.


what annoyed me was the way lennox was VERY vocal on the 50m thing even though we could clearly see it was a fake offer. for example, you have finkle telling dan rafael that there's NO rematch if aj loses. Then you have frank warren and finkle telling the british media 'it was a 2 fight guaranteed deal'.

BUT
that on it's own was one thing

when wilder turned down the $100m dazn offer..that was the moment for lennox to admit he was wrong and diss wilder in the same manner.
when asked "what did you think of Wilder turning down the offer?"
his answer began with

"IT'S LIKE I ALREADY SAID, i would have taken the offer"
he hadn't said anything prior to the question, nowhere, not on twitter, not in any interview. he chose these words very conveniently to detract any shock value from an direct condemnation of wilder...

but fkin hell..if that was AJ?
he would never stfu about it, he'd still be tweeting about it.

really does show himself up as an envious guy.

the only other guy in boxing similar to that, is Floyd mayweather. he sets traps for guys who are viewed as his successors.

notice a lot of people dont actually like floyd, not even his own protege tank davis.

That’s why i never understood the way he jumped on the AJ hate train he was descredited and subjected to the same **** through out his career.

[The D3vil]

AJ fans were pissed because he unfairly classed AJ as the problem when it came to money. AJ was the one generating that money and was entitled to it. Wilder however was the greedy coward who deluded himself into thinking he was worth half the money when he couldn't even sell out a 14,000 seater arena and generate much. That's why he was only paid 2.1 Mill for the Ortiz fight.

It was bullshlt. Anybody who disagrees, is as deluded as Wilder himself. And Lennox is my favourite fighter in history before you call me biased or some other nonsense.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Like Canelo and Mayweather before him.

AJ is the cash cow in boxing.

Fights happen when they want them to happen.

They lowballed Wilder because they didn't want to fight him until Fury had already made him look vulnerable, just like Canelo wanted no parts of GGG until Jacobs & Brook made him look vulnerable.

Joshua admitted he was turning down $50 million to fight Wilder in America because he wanted to fight in the UK
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2...der-us-insist/

[Marchegiano]

Lewis is great but his time as undisputed was sad, as ****. For him to put worth and value to it now is a bit rich.

Evander is the last undisputed champion who wasn't a ****ty undisputed champion. Evander defended, Lennox never did. It's a bit like Fury being high on lineal. That's cool bro, but, compared to like everyone else who ever held that title your reign is a bit ****.

Lewis is great, not downing his skills, not claiming he was a **** champion in that he was a bad or weak boxer, just a **** champion in that he ran away from his duties as champion as soon as he was awarded the status.

Like a king who abdicates immediately but continues being a baller ass politician. Cool bud, but, as a king, ya ******.