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  • Curt Henning
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    #71
    there was a time, way back in the day, when a lil guy named floyd wanted to "bring attention" to himself and make himself a superstar...and bob was like "nah man lets promote you as the clean cut all american kid".....lol

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    • petegrif
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      #72
      It's a business

      Shouldn't be a surprise to anyone

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      • Doubledagger
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        #73
        Originally posted by Pigeons
        Pac is 41 and can't break 400-500K himself. He ain't making either one of them a star.
        Didn't Pac sell over 500k in the Keith Thurman fight?

        I'm certain a Crawford or Spence fight sells much more.

        Both are bigger fights than Thurman was and also, Pacquaio's stock has actually risen again after he beat a prime Keith Thurman.

        Back then everyone thought it was a cherry pick and that Manny was passed it, but now, after that shock victory, everyone will be tuning in to see how Manny does against Crawford or Spence.

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        • Doubledagger
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          #74
          Originally posted by Punch on Tap
          I agree with you. I think it’s a bit more complicated than that though.

          With the long history of Arum and Haymon and the fighters they’ve shared that mostly don’t eff with Arum, Arum is not going to be willing to pull his weight in fronting the money likely required to make the fight happen.

          I can see a situation where Arum will continue to sabotage this career defining fight if Bud and team continue to verbalize their frustrations.

          Arum gets credit for a lot of positive things in boxing history but he also gets his share of criticisms because it’s blatantly obvious. Every fighter that has left him has said the same thing and have the same experiences with their careers. That CANNOT be a coincidence.
          True, but if Crawford's contract is running out next October, the fight can possibly be made and scheduled for December with Crawford a free agent or signing with PBC right after

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          • HewJohnson
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            #75
            Arum is old and will die within next 5-19 years, he don’t give af.

            And he’s probably being brutally honest, Crawford don’t make him any money. Crawford has zero star power.

            Bud and Spence need to fight each other to boost their career. Quit ducking. Stop trying to rely on a 44 year old part time boxing Filipino senator to give you a name.
            PAC is fighting mcgregor.

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            • masterpatric09
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              #76
              Arum is right

              Crawford is not sellable. He ain't Manny He does not have charisma. Pay per view is the reason Boxing is dying. It fail we are not going to pay to watch a fight 50 bucks. Promoters have been greedy and boxers as well. Not every fight is a PPV neither Crawford vs Spence is a PPV.I will not pay to watch Spence who is also a very boring Fighter. Zero charisma. Same happened with Rigondeaux great boxewr but Nobody wants to see him fight.

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              • super-x
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                #77
                Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75
                60-40 is a fight killer because Crawford thinks he is of higher value than what he is. His best PPV draw was 150k ffs!!! How TF are you going to scream you’re worth more than 60-40 when you have NO FANS watching you! It’s simple business math. Spence is A side because he has double the draw.
                May very well be the case, but when you had uncle bob over paying you by millions to fight has beens, then in crawfords mind hes going to believe hes worth ALOT more then his true worth, getting paid 7mil for fighting amir khan is madness but due to arum paying them silly fight purses made crawford believe his value is A LOT more then it actually is. So from crawfords perspective, to actually fight a high risk opponent the money should be significantly more then he was already getting for fighting no hopers really. Financially hes been way better of then the PBC welterweights in terms of pay cheques but in reality he was just being over payed and finally Arum had enough and told the truth about it all.

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                • shaheed1972
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by FinitoxDinamita
                  Im siding with Arum here. If I was in the Boxing business as a promoter, I wouldnt even look at Crawford. He isnt marketable that’s the main thing.
                  Please explain how he's not marketable but his fight consistently have high ratings? His fight with Brook had more viewers than Teo/Loma. Even going back to the HBO days Bud had great ratings.

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                  • MDPopescu
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75
                    Arum is 100% correct in this entire article. No one is going to promote this fight and have it done during COVID. It’s not happening folks. We can hem and haw all we like and we can gnash our teeth at Arum as the evil villain but he is correct. It may be years before fans are allowed back into arenas.

                    Good luck making money off a fighter that’s not known by anyone outside of die hard fans and another barely known but still pulls modest numbers.
                    ... obviously...............................

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                    • shaheed1972
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Scopedog
                      Utterly foolish comments from Arum. As I said the last time, it's the fighter's job to fight and the promoter's job to promote. As a fighter, nobody can fault Crawford. He's got a record of 15-0 with 12 KOs in world title fights and he's been not only brilliant but also exciting to watch in pretty much all of those victories. He's consensus top 3 p4p in the world, potentially even no. 1 depending on who you ask. He's delivering pretty much everything a promoter could possibly want in the ring. If a promoter can't sell that then he's a shi**y promoter, end of story, regardless of what his personality is like. Sure, talking can help to sell a fight, but ultimately this is a professional sport, and fans pay to see athletes compete, not talk, and again, selling the fight is first and foremost the promoter's job, not the fighter's.

                      If I was a young prospect considering signing up with Top Rank, or even one of the other fighters in Bob's stable, this entire episode would have me on the phone to my agent to see what kind of deal I could get with Hearn or Haymon or hell, even Oscar instead. I'd think to myself, is this how I'm going to end up, where even if I put together a great string of eye-catching victories in world title fights and end up near the top of the p4p list, I'm getting shi* on by own promoter for not doing the job that he's supposed to be doing? Even Don King at least made a show of being your friend while he was screwing you. The only other times I can remember a promoter trash talking his own guy while he was still under contract with him was Odlanier Solis' promoter calling him a bum after his umpteenth embarrassing loss and Tor Hamer's promoter publicly firing him over social media after he quit in a fight. There's a strong case for arguing that both of those were justified, but even in those cases plenty of people said it was unprofessional. How much worse is this, when the fighter in question has just posted his eighth consecutive world title fight KO? Everything Dana White said about Arum was 100% on the money.
                      What about Oscar trashing Ryan Garcia?

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