Roberto Duran weaknesses?

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  • HandsofIron
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    #21
    Beer, Food and Women.

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    • QueensburyRules
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      #22
      - -Focused Duran as perfect a fighter ever created save his personal over indulgence that left him compromised in a host of fights.

      Speed, timing, craft and nuance, arsenal and power, endurance, and chin and durability. Plus he loved to fight that can't be taught to the usual candies populating boxing forums.

      Since he was such a sneering, macho bully much like Mike Tyson, that made him a popular polarizing figure for many of the fans who quaked as kids over the presence of bullies, thus leading to wide disapproval bordering on illogical hatred anytime his name crops up.

      Best to best, one of the unbeatable fighters ever. Nice that after years of 250+ lbs in retirement he dropped down to a more manageable 180 or so.

      Took serious injuries from an auto accident to retire him from boxing. Otherwise he'd have gone into his 50s with the gloves on.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Science
        What were some of Durans weaknesses?
        Lack of discipline!

        Definitely outside the ring, partied way too much after the Leonard win and ballooned up in weight, something he continued to do throughout his career.

        And also to an extent in the ring, he lost discipline in the Leonard rematch, fought angry and the frustration led to him quitting.

        From a technical perspective, honestly not much.

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          #24
          Originally posted by HandsofIron
          Beer, Food and Women.
          Yep........

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            #25
            Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony
            Lack of discipline outside the ring. When he was at 135 in his prime, he didn't hardly have any weaknesses.
            Great minds think alike...

            I can’t think of any technical deficiencies tbh.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Science
              What were some of Durans weaknesses?
              Take it to the history section. The majority of poster here have only seen hi light videos of Duran of they've seen him fight at all.

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                #27
                Originally posted by NearHypnos
                Himself / temperament.
                Yes big shame about the way he let himself go after the first win over Sugar Ray Leonard. Parting and all that.

                True mark of a champion is sacrifice in the face of pleasure for me .Very few had the mental resolve to overcame this including Muhammed Ali/Rocky Marciano/Mike Tyson who all liked the women to much.

                I dont know if he cheated but I think one that stands out for me as one who sacrificed and gave his all with training is Marvin Hagler.
                Last edited by Richard; 11-20-2020, 06:23 AM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Ricky12
                  Yes big shame about the way he let himself go after the first win over Sugar Ray Leonard. Parting and all that.

                  True mark of a champion is sacrifice in the face of pleasure for me .Very few had the mental resolve to overcame this including Muhammed Ali/Rocky Marciano/Mike Tyson who all liked the women to much.

                  I dont know if he cheated but I think one that stands out for me as one who sacrificed and gave his all with training is Marvin Hagler.
                  Have there been ANY fighters who weren’t crazy about women? I’m not trying to argue, just couldn’t think of any truly spartan fighters. Did Hagler stay away from women during his career entirely? I hadn’t heard one way or another regarding Hagler, but I know of some guys studying STEM who stayed away from women completely in college for the sake of their grades / future, so it is done. I technically stayed away from women in college as well, but it was more of a case that I was a shy loser at the time and definitely not intentional

                  And for the record, a faithful married man could still be crazy about his wife and have copious amounts of sex; I am not asking if there have been any boxers like that, but rather if there have been any who seem to have been truly celibate throughout their professional career. If I remember correctly, Hagler didn’t marry till he retired, so depending on if he had any hookups or not, he may have been celibate during his career... correct me if I’m wrong

                  For the record, I’m not trying to make this into some weird thread about sex, but I really have to struggle to think of boxers who didn’t either have a reputation for sleeping with lots of women, or who were married to a stunning wife (also implies a lifestyle of lots of sex).

                  It’s hard to say, but I think that sex in itself if done too often, married or otherwise, could negatively effect a boxer’s preparation for fights.
                  Last edited by Legends456; 11-20-2020, 06:44 AM.

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                    #29
                    Dedication which ray arcel openly admitted to having to drag durn out of bed to train and he could not cope with pure boxing...speed and movement

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Legends456
                      It’s hard to say, but I think that sex in itself if done too often, married or otherwise, could negatively effect a boxer’s preparation for fights.
                      I agree. I seem to remember reading somewhere that old school fighters abstained from sex before a fight as it gave them more energy in the fight. I know Shaolin monks who practise martial arts do something similar.

                      Originally posted by Legends456
                      And for the record, a faithful married man could still be crazy about his wife and have copious amounts of sex; I am not asking if there have been any boxers like that, but rather if there have been any who seem to have been truly celibate throughout their professional career. If I remember correctly, Hagler didn’t marry till he retired, so depending on if he had any hookups or not, he may have been celibate during his career... correct me if I’m wrong
                      Iam talking more about cheating . For me sex with your wife is fine outside of training.

                      Iam a strong believer though if you truly love your wife you wouldn't hurt and cheat on her.
                      Last edited by Richard; 11-20-2020, 09:29 AM.

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