Crawford-Brook ratings 6x higher than Spence-Brook

[mcdonalds]

Imagine comparing the numbers from an afternoon fight on a premium network to a primetime fight on ESPN.

I knew people here were dumb but I didn't know they were this dumb. This is peak idiocy on NSB.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Only way to settle this is for both guys to fight rod salka on ppv with no undercard and see how many buys they get. The way I see it, it’s the matchup that sells.

Spence did a gate of over 12,000 vs Ocampo in texas.
Crawford did a gate of over 13,000 vs Benavidez in Omaha.

Carlos Ocampo lost to Spence by early brutal KO, then proceeded to dominate his next 5.

Jose Benavidez lost to Crawford by late questionable stoppage and hasn't been seen since.

Now, what's the net effect of those outcomes?

Spence pitches a shutout on Mikey Garcia to his largest PPV and gate numbers ever (almost 400k buys and enough to pay both guys $3 million each with enough left over to pay everyone with a gross of $27 million). Filled up the stadium in Texas.


Crawford sells 6k tickets and less than a million in revenue for Kavaliauskas.


Now, given these numbers (which you can EASILY verify yourself), I ask again.

What warrants a 50/50 from Crawford...?

[STREET CLEANER]

Reaching deep here to support a point.

[TonyGe]

The Crawford fight came during a Pandemic when people were desperate for sports.

[Monzon99]

Spence can't become a money maker by only fighting haymon pbc hired patsies. The fraud weather blueprint does not work anymore in America. It failed with wilder. it's failing with spence. Haymon will never learn.

[SplitSecond]

Carlos Ocampo lost to Spence by early brutal KO, then proceeded to dominate his next 5.

Jose Benavidez lost to Crawford by late questionable stoppage and hasn't been seen since.

Now, what's the net effect of those outcomes?

Spence pitches a shutout on Mikey Garcia to his largest PPV and gate numbers ever (almost 400k buys and enough to pay both guys $3 million each with enough left over to pay everyone with a gross of $27 million). Filled up the stadium in Texas.


Crawford sells 6k tickets and less than a million in revenue for Kavaliauskas.


Now, given these numbers (which you can EASILY verify yourself), I ask again.

What warrants a 50/50 from Crawford...?

Spence should be asking for 60/40. But what do you think will be the numbers for Spence vs Garcia and Spence vs Crawford?

[sicko]

Complete sh^t attempt at trying to argue on the behalf of Crawford OUCH!

[SplitSecond]

Complete sh^t attempt at trying to argue on the behalf of Crawford OUCH!

Quote me when you want to talk sht you little ***it. He’s done his homework so I want his opinion.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Spence should be asking for 60/40. But what do you think will be the numbers for Spence vs Garcia and Spence vs Crawford?

Spence DID offer 60/40 (with 60 going to him) which is a fair number. That's the whole dispute going on right now - because Crawford wants 50/50 for no reason other than smoking the ghost of Kell Brook who (according to even Porter) didn't show up.

I believe Spence/Danny goes higher than Mikey because Garcia is a dangerous puncher where Mikey never was AND Danny's dad knows how to sell a fight. Plus many people will dial in just to see how Spence does AND the narrative is, like with Algieri, Danny has never been stopped OR officially dropped. Can Spence do that?

Think about it. If Errol Spence after a major car wreck even drops Danny Swift, how can he not be legit?

Meanwhile, Spence/Crawford if done full PBC does big numbers. If it's a joint PPV it's not going to be that much because it'll just be Spence bashing Crawford's crap record (which it is) and Crawford saying Spence got hurt by Ocampo (which technically isn't true). BoMac can't trash Spence like he could everyone else. How do you sell it outside of the bubble? You can't.

That's the problem. ONLY hardcores care about that fight. It has to draw casual money to make enough to pay both guys and everyone else - and the only way it draws casual money is for Crawford to beat a big name. Which he hasn't.

If Crawford fought Porter, right now, that fight surpasses - FAR surpasses - Spence/Porter. Why? Porter's friendly with the casuals because he is on network TV. He has a fan friendly (i.e. not overly defensive) style, he doesn't talk like a thug, well dressed, etc. His dad is another thing, but still. That's the fight to make for big money.

Say they make the fight and Crawford drops and stops Porter, clean and without trigger ref. He'll instantly skyrocket in popularity and exposure. It automatically sells Spence/Crawford and THEN he would be worth 50/50.

Hell, even if Crawford dominated Ugas that's better than who he's been fighting.

[ShaneMosleySr]

We’re talking about different things. You’re talking about British PPV numbers for both events which I am ignorant too.

I don’t know which did better on British PPV, I was comparing American TV ratings.

You don't understand or care about the BUSINESS of boxing. So I'll leave it at this.



Since he's got two belts? Yes.

Since he beat Porter? Yes.

Since he's done 3x the PPV number of RECENT fights? Yes.




Come on man. You're not this damn ******.

Gate will always - ALWAYS - pull more money than PPV.

Gate you have

- Ads
- Ticket
- Food/concession
- swag
- and it's ONE person per seat.

PPV you have people who just call friends to share the price. You're not getting $80/person like you might get with gate. You don't get ad revenue. you don't get concession. You can't sell swag. The networks take a chunk of the PPV run.

Arum already explained this man. Don't act ******.




KELL BROOK fighting Crawford outperformed KELL BROOK fighting Spence because when KELL BROOK fought Spence, there were less buys because of no need for PPV. when KELL BROOK fought Crawford, everyone had to do PPV to support KELL BROOK.

You can deflect all you care to. Fact is, KELL BROOK is who sold both fights. Period.



If they can't go in person, how else do they support their guy?

Again, you're not this ******.