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  • ShaneMosleySr
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    #1

    Crawford-Brook ratings 6x higher than Spence-Brook

    Spence is clearly the bigger draw LOL.
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    Isn’t it amazing how all the Spence fans refuse to use television viewership against common opponents to determine who’s the bigger draw when comparing Spence and Crawford?

    They would rather compare Crawford-Postol to Spence-Garcia LMFAO

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      #3
      Not taking either fighter’s side, but you must factor in Spence vs Brooke being a 4 o’clock in the afternoon fight and still up to that point, Spence was chasing both brook and Thurman trying to get a name. I’m sure Donaire vs Rigo did better numbers here in amerika than Donaire vs Inoue(9 am fight)
      Last edited by buddyr; 11-19-2020, 12:46 PM.

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      • ShaneMosleySr
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        #4
        It’s a totally fair point.

        And I don’t know who draws better.

        I just think it’s funny that we’re going to compare a PPV fight against Viktor Postol to a PPV fight against Mikey Garcia to determine who’s the better draw but we won’t compare Brook and Brook.

        Originally posted by buddyr
        Not taking either fighter’s side, but you must factor in Spence vs Brooke being a 4 o’clock in the afternoon fight and still up to that point, Spence was chasing both brook and Thurman trying to get a name. I’m sure Donaire vs Rigo did better numbers here in amerika than Donaire vs Inoue(9 am fight)

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        • richardt
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          Spence was just coming up at the time and his first title fight so the best comparison would be Spence in a non-PPV fight and what those rating are. The Garcia fight wont give us a good comparison cause it is PPV. But that doesn't mean I think that Crawford can't outpull Spences numbers, just want to see an equal comparison.

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          • Combat Talk Radio
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            #6
            #1: Spence wasn't a champion going in.

            #2: Spence fought Brook in Sheffield, on Brook's home turf. You know, what Crawford refused to do with Horn, Kell and Brook. Which means the majority who saw Spence/Brook didn't need to do PPV, they went to the event. 17,000 tickets sold first day.

            #3: Brook helped sell Crawford/Brook. Crawford didn't say anything leading up to the fight, it was all Brook promotion. BoMac trashed the fight, so that didn't help matters.

            #4: because of COVID restrictions, Brits could only do PPV to watch Crawford/Brook. Aka support THEIR guy (Brook).


            In BOTH situations Brook was the draw, dude. In Spence he wasn't established, the Brook win WAS his coming out.

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              They're not going to negotiate actual views over the REVENUE each fight made collectively between both guys. Crawford getting 2 Mill views on ESPN is cool BUT Spence has 2 PPV fights that each averaged 350K PPV buys (roughly a 27 Mill gross) with the Mikey fight having 47K in attendance. Crawford hasn't done anywhere near those numbers. If Crawford had Spence's PPV history (though still short) he'd be singing the same tune as Spence.

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              • ShaneMosleySr
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                1. So Spence wasn’t a draw two years ago but not he’s clearly the superior draw now.

                LOL

                2. The majority of a television broadcast isn’t 17,000 people.

                3. So Crawford’s show outperformed Spence’s show and Crawford didn’t even try to promote it? He’s a way bigger draw then!

                4. Brits not being able to fly to vegas is not the reason Crawford-Brook did six times higher ratings than Spence-Brook.

                Originally posted by revelated
                #1: Spence wasn't a champion going in.

                #2: Spence fought Brook in Sheffield, on Brook's home turf. You know, what Crawford refused to do with Horn, Kell and Brook. Which means the majority who saw Spence/Brook didn't need to do PPV, they went to the event. 17,000 tickets sold first day.

                #3: Brook helped sell Crawford/Brook. Crawford didn't say anything leading up to the fight, it was all Brook promotion. BoMac trashed the fight, so that didn't help matters.

                #4: because of COVID restrictions, Brits could only do PPV to watch Crawford/Brook. Aka support THEIR guy (Brook).


                In BOTH situations Brook was the draw, dude. In Spence he wasn't established, the Brook win WAS his coming out.

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                • Combat Talk Radio
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                  #9
                  You don't understand or care about the BUSINESS of boxing. So I'll leave it at this.

                  Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                  1. So Spence wasn’t a draw two years ago but not he’s clearly the superior draw now.
                  Since he's got two belts? Yes.

                  Since he beat Porter? Yes.

                  Since he's done 3x the PPV number of RECENT fights? Yes.


                  Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                  2. The majority of a television broadcast isn’t 17,000 people.
                  Come on man. You're not this damn ******.

                  Gate will always - ALWAYS - pull more money than PPV.

                  Gate you have

                  - Ads
                  - Ticket
                  - Food/concession
                  - swag
                  - and it's ONE person per seat.

                  PPV you have people who just call friends to share the price. You're not getting $80/person like you might get with gate. You don't get ad revenue. you don't get concession. You can't sell swag. The networks take a chunk of the PPV run.

                  Arum already explained this man. Don't act ******.


                  Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                  3. So Crawford’s show outperformed Spence’s show and Crawford didn’t even try to promote it? He’s a way bigger draw then!
                  KELL BROOK fighting Crawford outperformed KELL BROOK fighting Spence because when KELL BROOK fought Spence, there were less buys because of no need for PPV. when KELL BROOK fought Crawford, everyone had to do PPV to support KELL BROOK.

                  You can deflect all you care to. Fact is, KELL BROOK is who sold both fights. Period.

                  Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                  4. Brits not being able to fly to vegas is not the reason Crawford-Brook did six times higher ratings than Spence-Brook.
                  If they can't go in person, how else do they support their guy?

                  Again, you're not this ******.

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                  • SplitSecond
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                    #10
                    Only way to settle this is for both guys to fight rod salka on ppv with no undercard and see how many buys they get. The way I see it, it’s the matchup that sells.

                    Spence did a gate of over 12,000 vs Ocampo in texas.
                    Crawford did a gate of over 13,000 vs Benavidez in Omaha.

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