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Originally posted by Legends456 View PostI don’t think Tank should be disparaged at all. He’s a great fighter. But LSC is small for his weight class and doesn’t have a lot of power. He’s a bit one dimensional. I say that as a fan of LSC. After last night, he needs to retire. Kudos to Tank for what he got done, but I’m not sold on him as some sort of p4p king unless he can do that to Stevenson or Teo. It’s a whole different situation then. I neither agree with people disparaging Tank nor with those who are ballooning him up to p4p just yet. He has a style that’s ripe for the picking either by a Mayweather type (Stevenson) who can out athletic him, or for an elite counterpuncher with dynamite hands (Teo).
Why does it have to be Teo or shakur? Tank could beat Berchelt or Valdez and warrant p4p status if he did. They are quality opponents.
Tank also has a ko win over an undefeated Pedraza in his resume. Those 2 wins are top quality.
To bring up where Leo used to fight to disparage the win is just sad and petty.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostThis thread is interesting.
Lot of people talking about the weight class Leo used to fight just to disparage the win.
Are we going to do this for every fighter going forward?
At the same time, no-one can deny weight/size was a factor without keeping a straight face. LSC looked terrible at 130, and wasn't even that big at 126. David is a lightweight draining to 130. Realistically these two fighters should have been 2 divisions apart
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Originally posted by techliam View PostSome take it too far, but why bother listening to that perspective?
At the same time, no-one can deny weight/size was a factor without keeping a straight face. LSC looked terrible at 130, and wasn't even that big at 126. David is a lightweight draining to 130. Realistically these two fighters should have been 2 divisions apart
Tank isn’t a LW. tank is a 130 lber that had never really taken care of himself in between fights so he had to fight at LW.
He finally dedicated himself and made 130 without issue. Leo had been at 130 for over a year. Yes, he could probably still make 126 comfortably.
But they are not 2 weight classes apart.
Leo was winning, made a tactical mistake, and got caught. The weight didn’t cause the win, the power and the timing did.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostThere aren’t enough posters suggesting he should be on the p4p list for it to even be discussed.
Why does it have to be Teo or shakur? Tank could beat Berchelt or Valdez and warrant p4p status if he did. They are quality opponents.
Tank also has a ko win over an undefeated Pedraza in his resume. Those 2 wins are top quality.
To bring up where Leo used to fight to disparage the win is just sad and petty.
Personally I have him just outside the top ten after last night. While I think Berchelt and Valdez are good they aren’t on the level of Stevenson and Teo.
If he beats one of the two I named, he should be ranked around 5 on the p4p list.
Tank is a lot like a smaller version of Mike himself. They remind me of each other.
I think Tank will go down in history as a HOF, but I just don’t see him retiring undefeated. He’s not the right type of fighter for that. It’s usually the Mayweathers and Wards that do. The more crafty guys with excellent defense. Tank is a great offensive minded fighter and he will beat most guys, I’m just saying there will be a Holyfield and maybe a Buster in there somewhere he loses to. I think he will get all the props he deserves when all is said and done, though.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostHard to ignore it when it’s so prominent.
Tank isn’t a LW. tank is a 130 lber that had never really taken care of himself in between fights so he had to fight at LW.
He finally dedicated himself and made 130 without issue. Leo had been at 130 for over a year. Yes, he could probably still make 126 comfortably.
But they are not 2 weight classes apart.
Leo was winning, made a tactical mistake, and got caught. The weight didn’t cause the win, the power and the timing did.
and it's that factor that diminishes this win somewhat. I didn't say that was the reason for victory, but the reason why the fight didn't matter much in the grand scheme of things. I don't think it's Davis' fault, just that this win has limited meaning, similar to Loma/Rigo which was even worse
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Originally posted by Joeboxeo View PostNo way. Lopez is the undisputed champ, the only king at 135. Davis has only a fake belts. If Tank beat Teofimo, he will become the number 1
SorryLast edited by richardt; 11-01-2020, 08:05 PM.
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Originally posted by techliam View PostDisagree - Tank is massive at 130. He drains down to that weight, a weight Santa Cruz should not have touched which shows in his two fights there. A natural featherweight vs a lightweight able to drain down
and it's that factor that diminishes this win somewhat. I didn't say that was the reason for victory, but the reason why the fight didn't matter much in the grand scheme of things. I don't think it's Davis' fault, just that this win has limited meaning, similar to Loma/Rigo which was even worse
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Originally posted by Legends456 View PostI don’t think Tank should be disparaged at all. He’s a great fighter. But LSC is small for his weight class and doesn’t have a lot of power. He’s a bit one dimensional. I say that as a fan of LSC. After last night, he needs to retire. Kudos to Tank for what he got done, but I’m not sold on him as some sort of p4p king unless he can do that to Stevenson or Teo. It’s a whole different situation then. I neither agree with people disparaging Tank nor with those who are ballooning him up to p4p just yet. He has a style that’s ripe for the picking either by a Mayweather type (Stevenson) who can out athletic him, or for an elite counterpuncher with dynamite hands (Teo).Last edited by IRONCHINHAGLER; 11-01-2020, 08:44 PM.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostHard to ignore it when it’s so prominent.
Tank isn’t a LW. tank is a 130 lber that had never really taken care of himself in between fights so he had to fight at LW.
He finally dedicated himself and made 130 without issue. Leo had been at 130 for over a year. Yes, he could probably still make 126 comfortably.
But they are not 2 weight classes apart.
Leo was winning, made a tactical mistake, and got caught. The weight didn’t cause the win, the power and the timing did.Last edited by IRONCHINHAGLER; 11-01-2020, 08:45 PM.
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