How badly does Prime Mayweather beat down "the matrix" Lomachenko AT 135

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  • TheMyspaceDayz
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    #41
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    What Lopez did isn’t relevant in a Mayweather Loma match up. Teo is crazy strong and has one punch power. These are the threats that kept Loma honest. Mayweather doesn’t keep Loma quiet for that long with his little brittle hands.

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    • SplitSecond
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      #42
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      Bullshit.

      Mosley was offered the fight with Mayweather in 1999. Show me a source where Mosley called out Floyd.

      Hernandez wasn’t washed up either.
      Q: After you challenged him, a week later, Mayweather wished you good luck in your career which seemed to indicate he’s not interested in fighting you. He also mentioned that he challenged you twice, and he claims that you turned him down back in 1999 and again in 2006. Did you really turn him down?

      A: Like I said, he’s really a liar. He likes to lie a lot. In 1999 there’s a film where he’s fighting in Michigan when he was fighting at 130 and I was fighting at 135, and I asked him, like when HBO does the prefight analysts talk to the fighters before they fight. I talked to him, and hopefully it’s recorded somewhere—I think it was on FX—I asked him, “Are you planning on coming up to lightweight to fight me?” And he said, “No,” He had no intention of coming to lightweight to fight me, he wanted t beat Carlos Monzon’s record. He didn’t want to come to lightweight. That’s when I jumped from lightweight to welterweight to fight Oscar De La Hoya. That was the first incident that he’s talking about, so he turned me down in 1999.

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      • deathofaclown
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        #43
        Floyd would’ve put a beating on him or just comfortably outboxed him from the outside.

        Floyd’s reach was even significantly bigger than Lopez. So even if it was competitive at closer range, Floyd would’ve had the feet and range to outbox him from outside and catch him coming in.

        Floyd would’ve been a bad style for a Loma in my opinion, and that’s not even factoring in that Floyd was probably for levels above him in reality.

        Floyd also had possibly the best pivot I’ve ever seen and Lopez showed if you have a good pivot, you can negate the angles Loma tries to get with his feet, And he becomes much less effective.

        Floyd could make that fight very comfortable
        Last edited by deathofaclown; 10-31-2020, 07:05 AM.

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        • IronDanHamza
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          #44
          Originally posted by SplitSecond
          Q: After you challenged him, a week later, Mayweather wished you good luck in your career which seemed to indicate he’s not interested in fighting you. He also mentioned that he challenged you twice, and he claims that you turned him down back in 1999 and again in 2006. Did you really turn him down?

          A: Like I said, he’s really a liar. He likes to lie a lot. In 1999 there’s a film where he’s fighting in Michigan when he was fighting at 130 and I was fighting at 135, and I asked him, like when HBO does the prefight analysts talk to the fighters before they fight. I talked to him, and hopefully it’s recorded somewhere—I think it was on FX—I asked him, “Are you planning on coming up to lightweight to fight me?” And he said, “No,” He had no intention of coming to lightweight to fight me, he wanted t beat Carlos Monzon’s record. He didn’t want to come to lightweight. That’s when I jumped from lightweight to welterweight to fight Oscar De La Hoya. That was the first incident that he’s talking about, so he turned me down in 1999.
          That’s an interview 10 years later.

          Show me something from 1999 where Mosley called Floyd out.

          We know that Bob Arum offered the fight to Mosley to fight Mayweather in 1999 that’s documented.

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            #45
            Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
            Loma would struggle to get in his punching range
            You think Mayweather would try to keep distance from Loma instead of pressure him? Can’t see Lomachenko losing this if Mayweather is pushing him back to be honest. Lomachenko thrives when the one moving forward.

            50/50 fight. But what people don’t mention about Floyd, is that Castillo didn’t arguably beat him with crazy pressure and lots of punches. Castillo mainly gave Mayweather issue’s just by being an intelligent boxer who wasn’t dwarfed by length. Besides the length, what I saw from Castillo was a decent fighter but with very good feints that allowed him to set up big shots on Mayweather. If Floyd fights Loma like that he gets jumbled up by the feints and loses. If he attacks and attacks Loma he should win.

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              #46
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              That’s an interview 10 years later.

              Show me something from 1999 where Mosley called Floyd out.

              We know that Bob Arum offered the fight to Mosley to fight Mayweather in 1999 that’s documented.
              You’re sticking to this because you know we don’t have anything, this all happened a long time ago too. If you were being impartial you’d see that what Mosley said is just as good. Unless you think he was lying.

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                #47
                Originally posted by SplitSecond
                Q: After you challenged him, a week later, Mayweather wished you good luck in your career which seemed to indicate he’s not interested in fighting you. He also mentioned that he challenged you twice, and he claims that you turned him down back in 1999 and again in 2006. Did you really turn him down?

                A: Like I said, he’s really a liar. He likes to lie a lot. In 1999 there’s a film where he’s fighting in Michigan when he was fighting at 130 and I was fighting at 135, and I asked him, like when HBO does the prefight analysts talk to the fighters before they fight. I talked to him, and hopefully it’s recorded somewhere—I think it was on FX—I asked him, “Are you planning on coming up to lightweight to fight me?” And he said, “No,” He had no intention of coming to lightweight to fight me, he wanted t beat Carlos Monzon’s record. He didn’t want to come to lightweight. That’s when I jumped from lightweight to welterweight to fight Oscar De La Hoya. That was the first incident that he’s talking about, so he turned me down in 1999.
                We’ve got video proof of Mosley ducking Mayweather. No need to put weight in some bs story shane told over a decade later after the fact to try and save face. Of course he lied.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by SplitSecond
                  You think Mayweather would try to keep distance from Loma instead of pressure him? Can’t see Lomachenko losing this if Mayweather is pushing him back to be honest. Lomachenko thrives when the one moving forward.

                  50/50 fight. But what people don’t mention about Floyd, is that Castillo didn’t arguably beat him with crazy pressure and lots of punches. Castillo mainly gave Mayweather issue’s just by being an intelligent boxer who wasn’t dwarfed by length. Besides the length, what I saw from Castillo was a decent fighter but with very good feints that allowed him to set up big shots on Mayweather. If Floyd fights Loma like that he gets jumbled up by the feints and loses. If he attacks and attacks Loma he should win.
                  Lol at loma being a 50-50 fantasy fight with Floyd. Even after being exposed as probably the most overrated fighter in generations, his fanboys are still overrating him.

                  Stop these fantasy comparisons with loma against the all time greats. He doesn’t compare, he’s not on their level. Y’all just need to deal with and get over it. You were fooled, you bought the hype.

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                    #49
                    Like a rented mule. Lol @ posters that ever thought otherwise.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by KTFOKING
                      My thing wasn't to knock Lomachenko, he's a phenomenal fighter. But to say he dominates Floyd at 130 is just laughable at best. No fighter ever is going to dominate Floyd at 130, just not going to happen.

                      Then he threw out that Floyd ducked Mosley at 135 and was not able to provide any proof of that. And saying that is hilarious when it was always Floyd calling his and other big fighter's name out.

                      Now, if he wanted to say Floyd didn't make strong attempts Stevie Johnston at 135? I can get with that. But Mosley? Shows either a lack of memory or just flat out ignorance. You can decide what it is with him.
                      Idk man. All these claims of Floyd calling out Moseley in ‘98 seem false to me idk. It’s always been pushed by Floyd and his fanboys that he was making big pushes to fight Moseley back in ‘98 but in ‘98 I don’t remember that.

                      Can you give me a quote or proof from ‘98 that actually shows Floyd pushing hard for a Moseley fight and not a quote from years later where Floyd says he wanted to fight Moseley.

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