Canelo-GGG fights film study

[Boxing-1013]

Round 3...2nd fight.

GGG was leaking blood after just 3 rounds

Just watched it again. GGG outlanded him by at least 5 punches there, but Canelo landed a couple good body shots, one late. Was a tight round. But as far as landing more, definitely was GGG.

Tried to only count shots I knew landed clean, but I don't see how with any metric you could say Canelo landed more there. I had it about 14-9 for GGG. And GGG throws more, so if we give credit for 'maybes', his lead probably only grows.

What was your count?

[Thuglife Nelo]

The funny thing is, I made 2 threads today at virtually the same time.

I had 2 thoughts pop into my head - 1) was remembering that line from Antonio Tarver to RJJ, and what a great line it was. So I made a thread about that, and about their fight. And what level each guy was at for that fight.

Then 2) in another thread, the Canelo-GGG fight(s) got brought up, as they do seemingly in every thread. I asked the question that I asked in this thread, and wanted to make a thread about it, as I have yet to find a round like that myself.

But it is nice to see all the deflecting from the question in this thread. Interesting enough, there is no deflection in the other thread, just debate. Imagine that....

Yeah but the reality is that your fan types will cease to exist since nobody complains about GGG vs Canelo, only the generation that followed it. The fight itself will have new fans and new gen that weren’t suckered into GGG like his prime generation. Canelo will be the more studied fighter. Canelo fought impressively. He fought loose as one would in sparring and having fun. Yes Canelo was spent in that fight but threw the punches that count and his compubox showed it. All GGG did was throw a jab with a significant more missing ration than landing, and of course, no body work in that fight whereas Canelo had the better movement, flexibility, rope a dope, all styles shown.

When are time is gone, Canelo will still be looked at as legend for that fight. Don’t jinx your grave and become a lost bitter ghost hust because you don’t understand majority votes and the nature of three judges. Moretti and Trella had it closed. Bringing up Byrd alone isn’t even technically possible for a “robbery.”

[Boxing-1013]

Yeah but the reality is that your fan types will cease to exist since nobody complains about GGG vs Canelo, only the generation that followed it. The fight itself will have new fans and new gen that weren’t suckered into GGG like his prime generation. Canelo will be the more studied fighter. Canelo fought impressively. He fought loose as one would in sparring and having fun. Yes Canelo was spent in that fight but threw the punches that count and his compubox showed it. All GGG did was throw a jab with a significant more missing ration than landing, and of course, no body work in that fight whereas Canelo had the better movement, flexibility, rope a dope, all styles shown.

When are time is gone, Canelo will still be looked at as legend for that fight. Don’t jinx your grave and become a lost bitter ghost hust because you don’t understand majority votes and the nature of three judges. Moretti and Trella had it closed. Bringing up Byrd alone isn’t even technically possible for a “robbery.”

I saw Canelo lose twice. GGG is a bad matchup for him. GGG almost got beat on my card by Derevy though, so he isn't perfect either. But definitely is 2-0 vs Canelo.

[icha]

I saw Canelo lose twice. GGG is a bad matchup for him. GGG almost got beat on my card by Derevy though, so he isn't perfect either. But definitely is 2-0 vs Canelo.

in your dreams....

[Boxing-1013]

in your dreams....

Just in my reality, and many many others

[Robi13]

Canelo won both fights. Out boxed ggg in fight one made him look ******, the crybaby cried so canelo then whooped him like a step child. The cry baby cried out the ring again

[bluebeam]

Leaking blood....really. Man y'all hype up some weird stuff

What were your punch count numbers in that round? I will rewatch and give mine. Iirc that was definitely a close round and Canelo landed the better combo I think, but overall punches landed was virtually identical.

I can find more rounds. I Just dont feel the need to watch the fight again. Round 6 also


And whats weird about blood leaking? If your bleeding. Within 3 rounds and you didnt get headbutted. That means punches did it.

Abel sanchez in the corner during the 2nd fight tells me that me and him were watching the same fight.

GGG was getting touched up in the first half of the rematch

[Boxing-1013]

I can find more rounds. I Just dont feel the need to watch the fight again. Round 6 also


And whats weird about blood leaking? If your bleeding. Within 3 rounds and you didnt get headbutted. That means punches did it.

Abel sanchez in the corner during the 2nd fight tells me that me and him were watching the same fight.

GGG was getting touched up in the first half of the rematch

But you have to score what GGG was doing too...and people seem to always ignore his (very easy to score, clean, hard) punches that land, round after round.

Canelo did some good work early, but GGG was in every round basically. As I said I have never had one round in either fight where I come away and say 'clear Canelo round'

[Jubei]

A ton of people in this forum are not actual boxing fans, there's alot of trolls, haters and supporters from certain ethnicities, and even specifically certain promoters, and as soon a fighter loses (robbery or not), they will support the guy who has the boxing lobby, politics and media on his side, that just shows extremely weak character. They wont be able to answer your question. GGG dominated the first fight and thats at an age where he was already past prime at 35+, 2nd fight he was even older and still gave the supposed best P4P fighter hell, most people had GGG winning or a draw as can be seen in my signature. Just imagine a prime GGG, age 30, at the time he fought his first couple fights in the US vs Canelo. There's a reason he started to create his own weight classes, took PEDs, made every excuse possible and even dropped his belt to avoid GGG. Now he is actually suing DAZN and his own promoter because they told him to fight GGG again. What a clown.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Canelo won both fights. Out boxed ggg in fight one made him look ******, the crybaby cried so canelo then whooped him like a step child. The cry baby cried out the ring again

First one was a Draw. Posts like yours, even though you have a right to your opinion, really stir GGG diehards.

What GGG diehards and Canelo fans need to realize is that a majority of judges or the nature of judges help evaluate compubox theory. Sure fans complain about compubox, but it can't always be applied to every fight nor the same circumstances. For example high volume workrates in guys like a Santa Cruz once upon a time or a Figueroa Jr. whom would do an onslaught of punches would have a narrative of ''out worked'' their opponents (and landing) by 3:1. That's what GGG diehards and Canelo haters try to apply with the Canelo vs GGG fight. Golovkin landing 1/3 shots whom is usually an accurate puncher, and those shots were all just jabs.

So GGG diehards use a failed excuse to apply ineffective work rate and accuracy and simply go by jabs landed. Imagine if Canelo just threw jabs for all his power shots. It would look like a jab contest. This is the circumstance and context that the judges weigh and what was expected.

Moretti had it close. Had Moretti had 1 swing round to Canelo then there would've been two cards a Draw. Had Trella had 1 swing round to Canelo then Canelo would've won a split decision or vise versa. This is what GGG diehards don't understand about a close fight. You judge how to swing it from 114-114 to either fighter. Notice how no GGG diehards or industry even mention that nor the names of Moretti or Trella. Instead, they deflect to Byrd to create an instance that her vote made a difference. She couldve had it 115-113 for Canelo and it would've still been a Draw.

Fans get too emotional they don't know how to score fights. It was one of the most enjoyable fights, but fans don't respect the outcome of a Draw because they're not looking to how a balance of voting works for a decision. Their second fight was even better, different, stylistically, and a bigger war. It proves benefit of doubt to both fighters in the first fight. That's it! The fact that their performances were significantly better shows that the judges expected more from them in the first fight.

GGG missed a lot of shots trying to close the ring on each corner on Canelo. Canelo rolled with many shots, ducked, reset, went backwards in a loop over and over again each round. Casuals don't understand how hard that is. Canelo was able to keep GGG at distance every time in the fight. That's where GGG was expected to make it a close quarters fight when his ring cutting didn't work. And again, Canelo didn't do enough to win. Neither did. I wouldn't even be angry had GGG won since Golovkin didn't dominate Canelo for what was to be expected. GGG diehards know that but insist in amateur tallying for missed shots or activity vs the more composed and sharp fighter.