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  • #61
    Originally posted by Apollo7 View Post
    You get a lot of that arrogance from Americans. Often hating on non-Americans and reluctant to give credit. Loma has won championship in the amateurs and championships in multiple weight divisions as a professional. It's clear to any impartial person with working eyes a brain that Loma is an elite level fighter p4p. Lopez beat a great fighter.
    We don't care about amateurs, different rules different amount of rounds etc.

    How can he be an elite fighter with a 14-2 pro record? He got beaten by a "green" fighter in Lopez.

    You people live in a fantasy world, that guy has no plan B..if his rubbish dancing around doesn't work he is out of the element. He didn't know what to do against a green fighter like Lopez. He tried to brawl but as soon as he felt the power he withdrew...so how can a fighter be great or elite if he can't adjust?

    14-2 record and elite? You people need to stop worshipping dude's ..seriously.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat View Post
      I don't see it either. Some fresh American no-nonsense trainers who don't respect his hype might whip him into greater shape and skills. With his dad, he ain't changing ****.
      From what I've seen he trains at home, he got his ring..his bag and I believe he only gets sparring partners who keep him in his "comfort zone" because we all know his ego is fkn huge. He is the king, he is the "matrix"...he is the chosen one with the 14-2 record.

      And yea of course, he needs a proper boxing coach if he wants to get anywhere, not someone who will send him to dancing classes or hit fkn wall boards. The sh** his father does with him I could do the same for him maybe even better.

      Give me a pot full of water and we'll have a "gym"....you know all the sh** he does with the pot and holding his breath for minutes etc..

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      • #63
        Originally posted by BoZz View Post
        We don't care about amateurs, different rules different amount of rounds etc.

        How can he be an elite fighter with a 14-2 pro record? He got beaten by a "green" fighter in Lopez.

        You people live in a fantasy world, that guy has no plan B..if his rubbish dancing around doesn't work he is out of the element. He didn't know what to do against a green fighter like Lopez. He tried to brawl but as soon as he felt the power he withdrew...so how can a fighter be great or elite if he can't adjust?

        14-2 record and elite? You people need to stop worshipping dude's ..seriously.
        3 division world champion. Was consensus top 3 p4p. No worshipping here just acknowledging that he's one of the best in the world p4p, which he clearly is.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Apollo7 View Post
          3 division world champion. Was consensus top 3 p4p. No worshipping here just acknowledging that he's one of the best in the world p4p, which he clearly is.
          Match me up with two clowns who will take a pay to throw the fight and I will be a p4p too. I wish someone could match me with fighters who will go "NO MAS" even tho I didn't touch them. How cool would that be?

          But of course if I get a green fighter like Lopez who is serious about knocking my lights out, well my "greatness" might have to be put on hold lol

          But hey, there's always fan boys who would support me no matter what, call me the best in the world even tho I didn't do sh**

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
            Haney said the win has a lot to do with what Loma did not do. I agree with that! I think Loma was shook! Haney did not say that, I did! He did not want to take one to give one, but Teofimo was all for it! Loma did not want that smoke! Teofimo definitely wants that smoke with Devin! He just fought Lomachenko! Devin is fighting Gamboa! 'Nuff said!
            I don't think he was shook in the slightest. I think he employed the wrong game plan; try and let López tire himself out for the first six rounds then get a late round stoppage when he's gassed. Loma did say he wanted to take him to the later rounds and punish him. That's what I interpret people's opinions as. If somebody thinks Loma was shook, they'd just say it lol

            As for Haney vs. Gamboa, a guy can only fight who wants to fight. Haney wanted Loma but Loma wanted belts, which Haney didn't have.

            López has only demonstrated power and some decent counter punching in his fights. Haney has shown power, decent counter punching, speed, and a seemingly high level of boxing ability. I know who I'm picking in a Haney vs. López fight.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by alexjust View Post
              As much as I wish Loma had won and as much as I agree with your point about Teo getting the upper hand primarily because of Loma's inactivity, Teo proved to be an excellent fighter. Even though I rate Loma higher wrt skillset than Lopez, when elite fighters collide, the difference in size, age, reach and weight + solid skills might be enough to tilt the scale, which is what happened here. Loma lost fairly. But I don't think he would lose the rematch, although I doubt Lopez will give it to him. This fight has some similarity to Klitschko - Fury fight.
              I'd have to disagree with López showing he's an excellent fighter. He's good, don't get me wrong, but not excellent. He showed he has patience and stamina, which are obviously necessary attributes. Other than that I just didn't see him show anything special.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Squared.Circle View Post
                I don't think he was shook in the slightest. I think he employed the wrong game plan; try and let López tire himself out for the first six rounds then get a late round stoppage when he's gassed. Loma did say he wanted to take him to the later rounds and punish him. That's what I interpret people's opinions as. If somebody thinks Loma was shook, they'd just say it lol

                As for Haney vs. Gamboa, a guy can only fight who wants to fight. Haney wanted Loma but Loma wanted belts, which Haney didn't have.

                López has only demonstrated power and some decent counter punching in his fights. Haney has shown power, decent counter punching, speed, and a seemingly high level of boxing ability. I know who I'm picking in a Haney vs. López fight.
                I hope the fight happens, but I doubt it! I think DAZN will push for Haney vs. Garcia, if Garcia beats Campbell! Gamboa was an awful choice! He's old, coming off a KO loss and an achilles tendon injury! Javier Fortuna was available! Linares was available! Mendy was available! Totally unacceptable! Maybe Haney and Lopez meet @ 140?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by BoZz View Post
                  Match me up with two clowns who will take a pay to throw the fight and I will be a p4p too. I wish someone could match me with fighters who will go "NO MAS" even tho I didn't touch them. How cool would that be?
                  Okay so his losses count but his wins don't. Ok, seems fair ��
                  Last edited by Apollo7; 10-26-2020, 11:01 AM.

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                  • #69
                    Loma lost on purpose and got paid on the backend to land some big fights. That’s just my conspiracy theory. Kinda makes sense if there is a rematch for crazy cash. We will see.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Robi13 View Post
                      You act as if when Loma finally decided to get out of his shell and throw a punch that in those rounds lopez was completely out classed which he wasn’t. Lopez has his moments too! Just because Loma decided to fight you don’t automatic give him those rounds, they were still close and why should Loma be rewarded a rematch when he basically only fought half a fight? He fought scared in the first half and knew he had to punch lopez or else he would just lose 12-0... that’s the truth Loma was scared! No excuses and no rematch... lopez knocks him out in a rematch hands down... bub
                      Again YOUR, opinion which is not in fact a a fact!

                      Loma learned that Lopez can’t handle pressure and combinations on the inside!

                      what I saw was the bigger man needing to clinch the smaller man when Loma wanted to fight on the inside and getting his head snapped back by flush shots!

                      Just watch the unbiased highlights of the fight and you’ll notice Loma had the more effective flush shots in the night!

                      This was a fight more so Loma losing than Teo winning, if they rematch we can have a wager and my prediction will be right like almost the first fight but except Teo didn’t get the KO!

                      I learned that if Loma can keep the fight on the inside then he can earn a stoppage especially if he starts earlier!

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