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  • #61
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
    Julie shouldn’t have given Teo rounds 8-10 but no one should give Loma rounds 2 and 7.

    7 was closer than rounds 1-6 but still should’ve gone to Teo.

    Round 2- is it fair to give Loma a round because he landed a combo near the end of the round? That’s the ray leonard BS late flurry wins you the round.

    In the rbr I had it 8-4 or 7-4-1 (7th round even) being as generous as I could to Loma.

    In the rbr
    I would have to rewatch the fight to give detailed opinions on specific rounds. I just remember my general impressions and score. And — who knows? — I might see the fight a little differently the second time around. That often happens. But no way in hell I’ll agree with 119-109 or 117-111. Like I said, 116-110 is reasonable. I may not agree; but as I said before, judging is subjective. Judges can often, and understandably, see a couple of rounds differently.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
      I would have to rewatch the fight to give detailed opinions on specific rounds. I just remember my general impressions and score. And — who knows? — I might see the fight a little differently the second time around. That often happens. But no way in hell I’ll agree with 119-109 or 117-111. Like I said, 116-110 is reasonable. I may not agree; but as I said before, judging is subjective. Judges can often, and understandably, see a couple of rounds differently.
      We can agree 11-1 was not right. But 6-6 or 7-5 isn’t right either.

      The only Thing positive about julies card was she had the right fighter winning.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
        We can agree 11-1 was not right. But 6-6 or 7-5 isn’t right either.

        The only Thing positive about julies card was she had the right fighter winning.
        Now you’re being a little rigid. Take round two, for example. I don’t remember it that well, but I do seem to recall giving it to Loma. I must have, as I saw the fight either a draw or maybe 115-113. Those first couple of rounds showed very little punch output by either man. Round two could easily have been awarded to Lomachenko, as several knowledgeable pundits in fact did.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Lomadeaux View Post
          You need to stop posting on here. Get better at understanding the sport, or stop posting. You pick.
          I don't need a Loma groupie tell me what to do, if you don't like it, keep scrolling, you don't have to read or reply to the message. That's what makes this country great, the freedom to do whatever the f*** you want.

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          • #65
            [QUOTE=Cu****uyNYC;20832689]What’s that mean? Lol It’s Salido who refused to rematch Lomachenko, not the other way around. Siri won the fight. Lol[/
            The point is that Loma wines and cries when things don't go his way, whoever won is not the point, it's the bitc*** I have a problem with. And Salido chased Loma for 3 years, because Loma was claiming he won the fight, but Crickets from Loma.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by revelated View Post
              I acknowledge the bold. Which is my point.

              When two guys once called P4P, undefeated in their craft, both felt that the fight was a draw and not a blowout, I have to start questioning what people saw.

              The answer is that they saw shots land that didn't.

              Video I posted is JUST Round 12 - and proved Lopez was not as dominant as people said he was. People just gifted it to him because Loma was not the same Loma from the Nick Walters fight.
              1st, the bold represents your inserted language so just say it in your own words.

              2nd you don't get to cherry pick the two p4p guys whose opinion supports your narrative and co-opt it into "anyone whose put on gloves". Particularly given the high number of pros who felt Lopez won clearly.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by revelated View Post
                Same video I've been posting, brother. The one everyone's ducking for some reason.

                I appreciate the work done in this video but the slant is obvious. Credit for slight glancing punches that don't even make Lopez head move? No credit as the aggressor when Lopez is first. Presumption that a shot was blocked because the camera angle used doesn't show it landed. Illegal push off? Come on man this is the big leagues.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
                  Now you’re being a little rigid. Take round two, for example. I don’t remember it that well, but I do seem to recall giving it to Loma. I must have, as I saw the fight either a draw or maybe 115-113. Those first couple of rounds showed very little punch output by either man. Round two could easily have been awarded to Lomachenko, as several knowledgeable pundits in fact did.
                  I feel like Round 2, much like Round 7 for some, was given to Loma based on sheer excitement to see him throw a fast combo or two. Its almost as if seeing him stand his ground for a total of 15 seconds in a 3 minute round negates the stalking and body shots landed by Lopez.

                  There is a reason Loma had little in the tank in the 12th given as inactive as he was in the 1st half and it was the body work by Lopez.

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                  • #69
                    This fight was set up for Lopez to win. They will have a trilogy. Ask the judge who had it 119 to 109. Money talks and Bob Arum knows Money.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by revelated View Post
                      Same video I've been posting, brother. The one everyone's ducking for some reason.

                      I have to eat my words it was a lot closer than I recalled.

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