Lopez needs to rematch Lomachenko and put away all doubt

[Motorcity Cobra]

That was a CLOSE fight, period. Neither guy was landing much of anything in the first few rounds. BOTH guys were hesitant... Lopez was just slightly less hesitant...

Lopez is acting like he's the second coming of Manny Pacquiao! LOL

Lopez was acting gun shy HIMSELF with a guy he was clearly bigger and stronger than!!!


Lopez is acting like he DOMINATED lomachenko...Lopez NEVER (i repeat NEVER) landed a big, dramatic combination on Lomachenko... You know, the sort of combinations a prime Manny Pacquiao would be throwing THROUGHOUT a fight without FEAR. The only one landing the big combinations was Lomachenko when he finally realized he needed to turn it up.


Lopez was landing on Lomachenko the way Canelo was landing on Erislandy Lara... Another close fight with BS scorecards.

Lopez needs to shut up all his doubters and come in strong in the rematch. Lomachenko will obviously need to start fast. The rematch will be guaranteed to be fireworks because now Loma knows he can't trust the judges at all... Which might lead to him getting KO'd but at least we'll have ourselves a real fight.

The only doubt are Loma fans doubting they saw their man outboxed. Teo will stop Loma in the second fight. The only thing Loma can do in the second fight is start earlier. He starts earlier and he's getting stopped.

[saintpat]

Yeah, I'm dumbfounded why people are so against Teo not honoring Loma with a rematch.


I remember when AJ lost badly to Ruiz, everybody was on Ruiz to grant him a rematch because this, that, and the third. And that was a horrible loss, Loma just lost a close one for pissing away half the fight. Why aren't people saying the same thing? A rematch would be crazy as well, I think Loma wouldn't give a single round away and Teo will be even more confident. It'd be a classic.

If I were Lopez, my first condition (before we talk money and such) to a rematch would be Loma admitting he lost.

[darius45]

Excellent point but if Loma loses 2 in a row then His career is in trouble. Look at what happened to dogboe?

Yeah but that 1st manny Bradley scorecard was a Bobbery if you get what I’m saying.

We all wondered why bob paid Tim so much. We found out. Lol.

That's true, If Loma goes balls to the wall and does get knocked out in humiliating fashion it's going to hurt his career... But if he doesn't at least TRY to get a rematch and avenge the loss, that's not going to help him out much either....Because the fight was close enough and Lopez never hurt Loma or knocked him down, you can't say that size was an overwhelming enough factor (like you couldn't spin that angle if you're on team Loma while trying to build his image back up, especially since Lopez won mainly due to his boxing IQ and the threat of his power (but without ever imposing it enough to demonstrate to the public that yes he's just too big for Loma)...

Also, Loma is the kind of guy that could get dramatically KO'd like Manny did...and still come back and beat a guy like Davis.... Hell, him getting KO'd might entice Floyd enough to make that fight... cause you sure as hell know Floyd isn't in any rush to put Davis in with a hungy lion.

[786]

I’d love to see it again but Lopez doesn’t have anything more to prove regarding Loma after that fight. It might not have been a “dominant” performance but why does it have to be? It was a clear win and Lopez was comfortable for the majority of the fight.

I gave Loma 8-11 but Lopez was still having success in those rounds, especially 8 & 9, they were close rounds. We saw a glimpse of what would happen if Loma fought a more risky fight in the 12th...he’d likely get hurt and stopped.

Lopez doesn’t need to prove anything else regarding Loma but I’d love to see them do it again, it’ll always be an intriguing matchup.

Also, regarding rematch clauses, they’re not always a good thing, look how they’re holding up the heavyweight division; they stop things from progressing and block/delay good fights.

[Goldie]

You can make the argument Loma lost by a round or two at MOST. I had the fight a draw. The scorecards were a disgrace.

My point, however, is that Lopez did not win his crown in thoroughly dominating fashion. There IS lingering doubt on whether he is better that Lomachenko.... Does a more fired up Lomachenko white wash Lopez (rounds 8 to 11) or does this just draw Lomachenko into eventually getting knocked out?

This is weak psychology that you’re running on yourself. You’ve convinced that the fight was closer than it was and that lopez HAS to satisfy people like you. None of that is true though. The 116-112/117-111 cards were accurate meaning the fight wasn’t close. Loma literally gave away the first 7 out of fear of lopez’s power.

If lopez wants to give loma a rematch then cool. He doesn’t have to tho. He has other options. Plus, loma may not even want the rematch. Seeing how he fought the fight, it’s certainly not a given that he wants to get back in the ring with dude. He has other options too.

The bottomline, get over it he lost. Whining about the decision and trying to frame narratives isn’t going to change the outcome. Loma was exposed as being overhyped and overrated. He’s just not as good as his legion of fanboys sold him as.

[Get em up]

That was a CLOSE fight, period. Neither guy was landing much of anything in the first few rounds. BOTH guys were hesitant... Lopez was just slightly less hesitant...

Lopez is acting like he's the second coming of Manny Pacquiao! LOL

Lopez was acting gun shy HIMSELF with a guy he was clearly bigger and stronger than!!!


Lopez is acting like he DOMINATED lomachenko...Lopez NEVER (i repeat NEVER) landed a big, dramatic combination on Lomachenko... You know, the sort of combinations a prime Manny Pacquiao would be throwing THROUGHOUT a fight without FEAR. The only one landing the big combinations was Lomachenko when he finally realized he needed to turn it up.


Lopez was landing on Lomachenko the way Canelo was landing on Erislandy Lara... Another close fight with BS scorecards.

Lopez needs to shut up all his doubters and come in strong in the rematch. Lomachenko will obviously need to start fast. The rematch will be guaranteed to be fireworks because now Loma knows he can't trust the judges at all... Which might lead to him getting KO'd but at least we'll have ourselves a real fight.

Your first paragraph is all wrong. Lopez wasnt hesitant in the least. He implemented an effective game plan and blew the first 7 rounds outta the water. Even if your not landing " clean " punches. Affective aggression is a real thing judges score on. It was definitely affective too because LOMO DIDNT DO ANYTHING FOR 7 ROUNDS!

[boliodogs]

That was a CLOSE fight, period. Neither guy was landing much of anything in the first few rounds. BOTH guys were hesitant... Lopez was just slightly less hesitant...

Lopez is acting like he's the second coming of Manny Pacquiao! LOL

Lopez was acting gun shy HIMSELF with a guy he was clearly bigger and stronger than!!!


Lopez is acting like he DOMINATED lomachenko...Lopez NEVER (i repeat NEVER) landed a big, dramatic combination on Lomachenko... You know, the sort of combinations a prime Manny Pacquiao would be throwing THROUGHOUT a fight without FEAR. The only one landing the big combinations was Lomachenko when he finally realized he needed to turn it up.


Lopez was landing on Lomachenko the way Canelo was landing on Erislandy Lara... Another close fight with BS scorecards.

Lopez needs to shut up all his doubters and come in strong in the rematch. Lomachenko will obviously need to start fast. The rematch will be guaranteed to be fireworks because now Loma knows he can't trust the judges at all... Which might lead to him getting KO'd but at least we'll have ourselves a real fight.

Lopez does not want a rematch. He won the fight but he lost rounds 8 9 10 11 and got beat up in those rounds for the first time in his career. From the look on his face he hated getting beat up and does not want to go though that again. So he claims he beat Loma so easily that no rematch is needed. In fact two of the judges were ridiculously generous to Lopez and the judge that had it 116 to 112 had it right. lopez clearly won the first 7 rounds by throwing and landing far more punches. Loma finally went to work in rounds 8 9 10 and 11 and clearly won those 4 rounds by landing more and better punches and backing up Lopez. Lopez had a great last round and clearly won round 12. Andre Ward had the fight a draw and boxing scene scored it 116 to 112 for Lopez. It was a close enough fight to justify a rematch.

[Dolor]

I am all for the rematch.

Loma lost that fight, and quite clearly too. You cannot win a fight by just dancing around in the first half, not throwing any meaningful punch. Such a strategy is a disaster against someone with good stamina who is also bigger AND younger, and arguably as fast.

But the rematch does make sense, provided Loma comes to fight from round 1. That would be a really close fight then.

Anyhow, props to Lopez - not for the first half (because there he didnt't do too much) but for round 12; he really showed heart and determination there.

[The Big Dunn]

That's true, If Loma goes balls to the wall and does get knocked out in humiliating fashion it's going to hurt his career... But if he doesn't at least TRY to get a rematch and avenge the loss, that's not going to help him out much either....Because the fight was close enough and Lopez never hurt Loma or knocked him down, you can't say that size was an overwhelming enough factor (like you couldn't spin that angle if you're on team Loma while trying to build his image back up, especially since Lopez won mainly due to his boxing IQ and the threat of his power (but without ever imposing it enough to demonstrate to the public that yes he's just too big for Loma)...

Also, Loma is the kind of guy that could get dramatically KO'd like Manny did...and still come back and beat a guy like Davis.... Hell, him getting KO'd might entice Floyd enough to make that fight... cause you sure as hell know Floyd isn't in any rush to put Davis in with a hungy lion.

Respect your post but Loma was never the draw manny was. Manny could lose but his fans weren’t even leaving.

I also just think we are giving Loma a huge benefit of the doubt by suggesting he can simply change the strategy.

[boliodogs]

Loma was the a side going into this fight. He didn’t give Teo a rematch clause because he assumed he’d win.

Cool but then he lost. Now some are acting like Teo owes Loma a rematch.

IMO he doesn’t. If Loma wants a rematch, go beat Haney and become the #1 ranked LW.

The lack of a rematch is on Loma. He should’ve secured a rematch clause in case he lost.

I bet Loma is still ranked higher at 135 than Haney after the loss by most places. Haney has done very little and is just one of those Jr champions. His next fight is a huge cherry pick with freshly KO ed and very old and washed up Gamboa. If Lopez does not rematch Lopez then he should fight Haney next and Loma and lopez can't both fight haney next. If Loma can't get a rematch he might return to 130 anyway.