The rounds Loma won 8-11 were much more solid than Lopez's 1-7.

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  • _Maxi
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    #31
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
    Nope. Lopez's rounds were far clearer. Loma benefitted from the pity effect, where a fighter is so far behind they start giving him any round he's competitive in.
    Kovalev-Ward I

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    • TheBoxGod
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      #32
      Lopez won the majority of the rounds and cleaner, the rounds lomachenko won was a fight to barely scrap that round as a W and Lopez won the 12th round and closed the show = Lopez won the fight in every aspect way you can think of.

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        #33
        Originally posted by TheBoxGod
        Lopez won the majority of the rounds and cleaner, the rounds lomachenko won was a fight to barely scrap that round as a W and Lopez won the 12th round and closed the show = Lopez won the fight in every aspect way you can think of.
        rds 8-12

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          #34
          Originally posted by _Maxi
          Kovalev-Ward I

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            #35
            Originally posted by Vlad_
            Lopez won the points. He did not win the fight. What Loma did 8-11 was far superior to what Lopez did 1-7.

            What Lopez managed to land in those rounds were very few body shots when Loma was against the ropes, while missing over 80% of his shots... He didn't hurt or slow Loma down at all, as can be seen to how Loma lit the fire in the 2nd half. He simply managed to keep Loma out of range and remain hesitant. Sure he won the points in those rounds for activity, but Loma was displaying some master defense. If it was another fighter doing such defense, they would get praise from the same people who are dissing Loma.

            What Loma did after the 7th though, in 8 through 11, was a beatdown. He started throwing combos at Lopez's head from all angles. He made Lopez confused and keep his hands down. He beat Lopez in a far superior fashion in those rounds.

            Lopez did explode in the 12th though, and Loma became careless enough, and both traded some solid shots. I would give 12 to Lopez.

            But in rounds 1 through 11, Lopez won the points while Loma definitely won the fight.

            This needs a rematch...
            Under the 10 Point Must system, Loma lost.

            It's like complaining about winning the popular vote but losing the Electoral College.

            You gotta win under the rules of the game.

            Originally posted by BodyBagz
            Different fight if Loma fought in just a couple in the early rds.
            Exactly.

            It's ironic how the guy heralded as a master tactician came in with such a risky game plan.

            You can't give away 5-6 rounds and count on wearing down a bigger man in the later rounds, especially when you're the boxer and he's the puncher. That's just a bad game plan imo.

            And going in I felt either Lopez took it early or lost a decision. I never expected to see Lopez win a decision, but that's what I saw.

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              #36
              Originally posted by 1bad65
              Exactly.

              It's ironic how the guy heralded as a master tactician came in with such a risky game plan.

              You can't give away 5-6 rounds and count on wearing down a bigger man in the later rounds, especially when you're the boxer and he's the puncher. That's just a bad game plan imo.

              And going in I felt either Lopez took it early or lost a decision. I never expected to see Lopez win a decision, but that's what I saw.
              And he had to know you can't gas a guy just by making him move. You have to hit him as well. It wasn't as if he had Teo missing 100's of punches a rd or chasing him all over the ring.

              Slow and steady won Teo those early rds. Some nice body shots, mostly.

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                #37
                Originally posted by 1bad65
                Under the 10 Point Must system, Loma lost.

                It's like complaining about winning the popular vote but losing the Electoral College.

                You gotta win under the rules of the game.
                I agree and I conceded that Lopez won the points.

                What bothers me is the "exposed" and "dominated" comments. People saying how accurate the scorecards were...

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by BodyBagz
                  rds 8-12

                  and..... loma didnt win all of those.

                  Lopez outclassed loma to win rounds easily, loma had to fight every second of a round for the rounds he won.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by TheBoxGod
                    and..... loma didnt win all of those.

                    Lopez outclassed loma to win rounds easily, loma had to fight every second of a round for the rounds he won.
                    Outclassed a guy who did nothing. Not hard to do and it wasn't because Teo was bashing him around in the beginning.

                    Hard to take a fight fan as being honest when they support one of the guys. Such fans would try their best to give their guy every rd possible.

                    On to the next fight.

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                      #40
                      I agree with Loma winning 8-11 rounds were clearer than Lopez rounds except the 12th round.

                      Lopez boxed really well, he neutralized Loma's angle. Lopez moved everytime Loma was trying to setup his footwork.

                      It was either bad strategy by Loma's Team or Loma was aware of Lopez' power and didn't want to push through early rounds, to avoid
                      knockdown or possible knockout. You can see it in 12th round when Loma was hurt, he pretty much in defense on that round.

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