Loma, GGG, & Kovalev are a combined 0-5-1 in megafights vs USA or Hispanic opponents

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  • Boxing Logic
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    #21
    Originally posted by Rick Taylor
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    I agree with you. He should retire. I don't think non-Americans and non-Hispanics should box anymore. I used to really like a lot of the best non-American and non-Hispanic boxers, just because they fought with more offensive styles, threw more punches, were willing to fight the best unlike a lot of protected fighters, and simply performed at as high a level in the sport as anyone else in their era.

    That was how I felt then. I was a fan. Now, I would happily advocate that every single one of them retire. Maybe take one or two last fights to get money to very comfortable life for both them and their children, then retire. Usyk should fight AJ for the money, then retire. Bivol should get a big fight and then retire. Beterbiev should get a big fight and then retire. GGG already got big fights, he should retire. Israel Madrimov should get a big fight and then retire. Same with all of them.

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    • elfag
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      #22
      Most of those are true but Kov won the first Ward fight and was stopped by a 5 punch combination directly to the balls the second fight that the useless ref counted as a knockout instead of a 5 minute rest.

      Then the canelo fight was really weird, pulled his punches, dont know if it was a sincere strategy to save energy and increase speed or if the fight was fixed. He had a trial and could use the money, maybe he was paid to take a dive

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      • Rick Taylor
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        #23
        Originally posted by Boxing Logic
        I agree with you. He should retire. I don't think non-Americans and non-Hispanics should box anymore. I used to really like a lot of the best non-American and non-Hispanic boxers, just because they fought with more offensive styles, threw more punches, were willing to fight the best unlike a lot of protected fighters, and simply performed at as high a level in the sport as anyone else in their era.

        That was how I felt then. I was a fan. Now, I would happily advocate that every single one of them retire. Maybe take one or two last fights to get money to very comfortable life for both them and their children, then retire. Usyk should fight AJ for the money, then retire. Bivol should get a big fight and then retire. Beterbiev should get a big fight and then retire. GGG already got big fights, he should retire. Israel Madrimov should get a big fight and then retire. Same with all of them.
        boxing needs gatekeepers doe

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        • eco1
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          #24
          VS American Judges.

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          • RoyJonesJrp4pno1
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            #25
            I thought Kovalev beat Ward in the first fight.

            GGG was clearly robbed in the first fight against Canelo.

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            • Bandman
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              #26
              why don't u just say what you want to say? Lol


              just say all these fights were fixed .. theres a conspiracy against the Euros

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              • BaguMka
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                #27
                American judges are disgrace to boxing

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                • RuleOfTheSpear
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Boxing Logic
                  Did they though? I think sometimes you don't fight hard, and that's why you get beat. When a circus performer performs, do they say screw everyone else in the circus, I'm just going to do whatever moves I want on stage to make myself look good, screw everyone else, or do they, in contrast, always perform as part of the larger circus, in order to do what is best for the overall circus production, the way that it has been planned to go with all the other performers in the production?

                  Just saying....
                  Forreal. They didn't fight that hard.

                  Look at the intensity of Pac-Cotto or Floyd-Cotto.

                  Compared to those fights, Loma-Lopez look like a PG-13 baby version smh

                  The boomers were just legendary man

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                  • TheBoxGod
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Boxing Logic
                    So if Lomachenko is fundamentally basic, what is Lopez "fundamentally"? Not basic? Lopez is supposed to be a more advanced technical boxer than Loma now? Is that really what you want to go with?
                    Lopez has fundamentals but with special effects, He does things lomachenko cant anticipate so lomachenko has no answers for and has to be weary of (which is why lomachenko was shut down all night till Lopez slowed and sharpness slipped a tad), Lomachenko does nothing Lopez cant anticipate. You cant know/anticpate when Lopez will explode with a punch from out of range cause those are not fundamentals so lomachenko has to be extra careful not to get clipped from that unknown element that only Lopez know when he gonna do it, Lomachenko does not do anything outside of fundamentals so all of lomachenko threats are already known to both parties. lopez know everything what to expect and just has to rely on his skills/reaction/ring IQ to defend against it. Thats the difference.

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                    • Southpawology
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                      #30
                      LOL @ this guys skewed asss data.

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