I was one of the biggest Loma fans. If he moves back to 130, I won't watch him again.

[Boxing Logic]

As I told you guys many times, Loma was a hypejob. They had you fooled. He was made to look befuddled by a young gun tonight, as I've also been saying since 2017.

Loma was not special.

They had me fooled alright, just not in the way you're saying. But one day I remembered Wilder vs Malik Scott, and then I started getting "it."

[Boxing Logic]

What Loma is not is a 135 fighter his best is 126-130 , thats why he was shut out tonight, Teo is too big and strong and a great fighter in the making.

Loma's best ever performance, vs Crolla, came at 135. He's hurt guys way more often at 135. His punches look and sound boomier. The only thing giving him issues at 135 before tonight was height and reach. In every other way, Loma was starting to look like Pacman as he moved up, gaining muscle and power and explosiveness. Until tonight, against the young, good looking, marketable New York/Brooklyn Hispanic American fighter. Funny how that seems to work.

[Boxing Logic]

I have followed Lomachenko since he won Olympic gold medal and Val Barker trophy in Beijing 2008. He should absolutely go down to 130-126. He is to small to be fighting in 135

So Loma wasn't as good as he thought, and now he should forfeit? Give up? Moving back to 130 and 126 was only an option after becoming undisputed at 135, which would now include beating Lopez. Even if becomes undisputed at 135 now, it means nothing without beating Lopez. And even if he beats Lopez by SD or close decision to become undisputed, it means nothing because he already lost to him. He either needs a dominant win over Lopez to prove he's better despite being 1-1 with him, or he needs two close wins over Lopez to compensate for 1 close loss.

And if he does overcome Lopez at 135, why would he move down considering that Lopez at 135 is probably a harder fight than the top 140 and 147 pounders. So if Loma can pull that off, then he should chase greater greatness at 140 and 147.

I mean, if he's as good as he performed before showing up as a different boxer yesterday. If he's not that good, then go back down to 130 or 126 and do your thing, I just won't be watching. That's not at all compelling. That's like having the end of Return of the Jedi be Luke Skywalker saying, "you know what, turns out, I'm not capable of redeeming my father, or destroying the emperor, after all, so I'm not even going to try. I'm going to let the emperor keep being the emperor, and go back to Tattooine and chase some bounty hunters. There are some pretty evil bounty hunters on Tattooine, and I could totally put a stop to those guys, just not the emperor."

Who wants to watch that movie? No one. And that movie is Lomachenko at 130 or 126 at this point in his career. If he wanted big fights at 126 or 130, then why didn't Top Rank make Loma vs Mikey when both were at 126 or 130?

[BLASTER1]

So Loma wasn't as good as he thought, and now he should forfeit? Give up? Moving back to 130 and 126 was only an option after becoming undisputed at 135, which would now include beating Lopez. Even if becomes undisputed at 135 now, it means nothing without beating Lopez. And even if he beats Lopez by SD or close decision to become undisputed, it means nothing because he already lost to him. He either needs a dominant win over Lopez to prove he's better despite being 1-1 with him, or he needs two close wins over Lopez to compensate for 1 close loss.

And if he does overcome Lopez at 135, why would he move down considering that Lopez at 135 is probably a harder fight than the top 140 and 147 pounders. So if Loma can pull that off, then he should chase greater greatness at 140 and 147.

I mean, if he's as good as he performed before showing up as a different boxer yesterday. If he's not that good, then go back down to 130 or 126 and do your thing, I just won't be watching. That's not at all compelling. That's like having the end of Return of the Jedi be Luke Skywalker saying, "you know what, turns out, I'm not capable of redeeming my father, or destroying the emperor, after all, so I'm not even going to try. I'm going to let the emperor keep being the emperor, and go back to Tattooine and chase some bounty hunters. There are some pretty evil bounty hunters on Tattooine, and I could totally put a stop to those guys, just not the emperor."

Who wants to watch that movie? No one. And that movie is Lomachenko at 130 or 126 at this point in his career. If he wanted big fights at 126 or 130, then why didn't Top Rank make Loma vs Mikey when both were at 126 or 130?

I agree bro.
He really disappointed me tonight.
I was so confident i was about to put 4k on the table and for those guys that did lay down big money well its ***ed up.
Why didn't he throw until the 8th round?
The game plan was terrible.
Its like Loma had a bet in himself knocking Teo out after 10 rounds or something.
Papachenko surely wouldn't have a game plan like that.
Im left scratching my head and thanking BoxingIsGreat for advicing me not to bet that much.
He HAS to rematch Teo or it will play on his mind for the rest of his career.

[Jubei]

You're one of the most negative haters with racist tendencies towards eastern euro fighters on this forum. You really think Loma or anybody else cares about trash like you to watch his fights?

[Boxing Logic]

I agree bro.
He really disappointed me tonight.
I was so confident i was about to put 4k on the table and for those guys that did lay down big money well its ***ed up.
Why didn't he throw until the 8th round?
The game plan was terrible.
Its like Loma had a bet in himself knocking Teo out after 10 rounds or something.
Papachenko surely wouldn't have a game plan like that.
Im left scratching my head and thanking BoxingIsGreat for advicing me not to bet that much.
He HAS to rematch Teo or it will play on his mind for the rest of his career.

Nah man, nah. IMO, he doesn't give a ****. If he gave a **** about winning or losing boxing matches, would he have performed like that?

And bet on himself to win by KO past the tenth? Because taking a ridiculous risk like that is a smarter way to make money than simply winning the fight and getting an even bigger fight afterward? That makes no sense. IMO, it was the same as Canelo vs Kovalev. They sparred a practice fight. Maybe they rehearsed it before hand, I don't really know how it would work. They probably don't need to because they've sparred their whole lives with people. So they just go in, have a light sparring session, make sure it looks like Lopez won a close fight, snap their heads around to make it look good, grit their teeth, all that type of ****, maybe pull out some fake blood Hollywood trickery at the end of the 12th round to make it look real, and the circus rolls on to the next stop, this time with Teofimo as the marquee attraction. There was a replay of an uppercut Teofimo "landed" mid fight that looked totally fake, like he pulled the punch into Loma's shoulder rather than him him in the face.

Sounds like maybe Lomachenko never crossed over financially in the US. I thought he was getting pretty big, like there was a real groundswell around him because of his cool style and long run of great performances, but maybe he never did? What do you think?

[baroidi]

Just watched the fight, wow LomaSTANKO was all smoke and mirrors. Lopez was definitely the bigger fighter, but I expected LomaSTANKO to at least put an effort in, but right from the opening round, STANKO was terrifed of Lopez' power. No wonder STANKO and his dad avoided the Pacman like a plague.

[BLASTER1]

Nah man, nah. IMO, he doesn't give a ****. If he gave a **** about winning or losing boxing matches, would he have performed like that?

And bet on himself to win by KO past the tenth? Because taking a ridiculous risk like that is a smarter way to make money than simply winning the fight and getting an even bigger fight afterward? That makes no sense. IMO, it was the same as Canelo vs Kovalev. They sparred a practice fight. Maybe they rehearsed it before hand, I don't really know how it would work. They probably don't need to because they've sparred their whole lives with people. So they just go in, have a light sparring session, make sure it looks like Lopez won a close fight, snap their heads around to make it look good, grit their teeth, all that type of ****, maybe pull out some fake blood Hollywood trickery at the end of the 12th round to make it look real, and the circus rolls on to the next stop, this time with Teofimo as the marquee attraction. There was a replay of an uppercut Teofimo "landed" mid fight that looked totally fake, like he pulled the punch into Loma's shoulder rather than him him in the face.

Sounds like maybe Lomachenko never crossed over financially in the US. I thought he was getting pretty big, like there was a real groundswell around him because of his cool style and long run of great performances, but maybe he never did? What do you think?

Yer i dont really believe the betting on himself but i dont know man Loma dont seem like the type to play games like that.
I just think their whole team under-estimated Teo and they paid the price.
It was a very dissatisfied first 6rounds for LOMA in anyones eyes.
I hope he watches the footage and comes back stronger.

[Boxing Logic]

Yer i dont really believe the betting on himself but i dont know man Loma dont seem like the type to play games like that.
I just think their whole team under-estimated Teo and they paid the price.
It was a very dissatisfied first 6rounds for LOMA in anyones eyes.
I hope he watches the footage and comes back stronger.

Do you think there will be an immediate rematch that Loma will win? It's impossible for him to "come back stronger" without beating Teofimo first. This loss unavenged undermines and ruins his entire career, pretty much like Canelo vs GGG did to GGG.

Loma dont seem like the type to play games like that.

So you think it's possible he threw the fight, which would mean he deceived everyone watching, but you think it's relevant how Loma "seems"? What if he's just a great actor in addition to being a... well he was supposed to be great... but now I'd say overrated and completely average, boxer (who should retire)?

If anyone didn't seem that type, it was Kovalev. But his fight vs Canelo was one of the most su****ious I have ever seen. So... it doesn't matter how they "seem" on TV. You have to judge people by their actions not their words.

[BLASTER1]

Do you think there will be an immediate rematch that Loma will win? It's impossible for him to "come back stronger" without beating Teofimo first. This loss unavenged undermines and ruins his entire career, pretty much like Canelo vs GGG did to GGG.



So you think it's possible he threw the fight, which would mean he deceived everyone watching, but you think it's relevant how Loma "seems"? What if he's just a great actor in addition to being a... well he was supposed to be great... but now I'd say overrated and completely average, boxer (who should retire)?

If anyone didn't seem that type, it was Kovalev. But his fight vs Canelo was one of the most su****ious I have ever seen. So... it doesn't matter how they "seem" on TV. You have to judge people by their actions not their words.

Well his actions say hes s 2x Olympics champion and a 3division champion that almost unified the Division.
So going off his past record yer he dont seem like the one to throw a fight.
Esp. to become unified.