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  • #71
    Originally posted by MoneyKasha View Post
    just because your white doesn't mean you arn't anti-white towards fighters

    you seem to have a very american old school view of boxing that only african americans can fight...you hate on any white fighter
    *You're . And I am not anti-white. Ask the resident afrocentric bigots like MCC, Big Dunn, travesty, etc... if I'm pro black or anti-white . I just call out the white supremacists of NSB like you for their unusual **** riding of only those their race. I like a good bit of fighters from all races but refuse to overrate and over hype guys with weak resumes. I clown Crawford as much as GGG and Lomachenko.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Fists_of_Fury View Post
      *You're . And I am not anti-white. Ask the resident afrocentric bigots like MCC, Big Dunn, travesty, etc... if I'm pro black or anti-white . I just call out the white supremacists of NSB like you for their unusual **** riding of only those their race. I like a good bit of fighters from all races but refuse to overrate and over hype guys with weak resumes. I clown Crawford as much as GGG and Lomachenko.
      Will you admit that Fury is an elite fighter?

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      • #73
        Originally posted by MoneyKasha View Post
        Will you admit that Fury is an elite fighter?
        Elite Heavyweight in this era for sure. But that's not saying much. Windmill Wakanda Wilder is a top Heavyweight. Glass jaw AJ who gets beat by short fat Mexicans is a top Heavyweight. Charles Martin held a Heavyweight belt in this era . Andy Ruiz held multiple straps not long ago .

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        • #74
          This is what happens when you're in a rush to ascribe greatness to fighters that haven't earned it yet.

          Yes Loma is talented, and one of better fighters around right now, but to mention him in the same company some posters here have has been flat out disrespectful to those great fighters.

          We need to see how/if he rebounds from this L, but it is an extremely bad look to lose in your prime to someone so green. Teo's career will also determine just how bad this L looks going forward.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View Post
            Also he didn't embarrass himself, let alone me lol. He fought cautious early against a very dangerous fighter. Tried to pick his spots late and it was too little too late. Great fight. Why are y'all so mad that he lost when you wanted him to lose? Like y'all sound like some psyscho exes who want your ex-boyfriend to care about you. We don't care man, sort out your own issues and take a few minutes.
            You replied twice to a single one of my messages and I'm the one with issues.
            Youre doing what you usually do, enter a thread that offends you , and literally reply to every single person who hurt your feelings.
            Yeah I'm the one with the issues.

            You've made literally hundreds of comments complaining about better fighters exposing Golovkin, all because you choose sh**ty fighters to support.

            Stop backing fighters for ******, superficial reasons, and maybe you'll stop looking ****** after every fight.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by BoZz View Post
              See how you mentioned Walters and Rigo then proceeded with the 'etc'....homie there is no etc that's it, that's his "greatness" right there lol

              A walters who came for a pay check who didn't even fight back, took the pay check to lose and never fought since homie...not one fight since he threw the fight..go check for yo self

              And a small Rigo who came up in weight just to quit? Yea you're right Loma deserves respect and to be put in the hall of fame for those two wins

              Dude you are doing a great job making yourself look bad...

              Mayweather's wins over unbeaten hatton and canelo alone sh** on lomachenko's whole amateur and pro career...and don't forget he beat an all time great fighter like pacquiao

              Discrediting mayweather but defending a guy with a questionable 14-2 record...wow lol
              Originally posted by BoZz View Post
              Pacquiao old? Mayweather is older than pacquiao...and we all know arum didn't want pacquiao to fight mayweather...as he once said; Mayweather is the greatest fighter he has seen...those were Pacquiao's promoters words not mine

              And I don't really care what you think of Floyd, you can hate on hi m as much a you want. I know how great he is and what he has done. But you are making yourself look bad with defending a mediocre fighter with a 14-2 record while discrediting floyd..something ain't right there.

              And Canelo wasn't drained, you have nothing to say or a legitimate reply so now you're making things up, de la hoya was drained against pacquiao, that I could agree on but I can't agree with you making unbiased comments just because you are upset your hero lost today. And you're using Floyd's 50-0 record to make a point or to defend lomachenkos loss. Stay on topic...the topic is loma got exposed today lol
              Dude you are just an ultra Floyd fanboy. Why you are making this about him, and the way you're talking about Loma, who is clearly a great fighter but not as great at 135, I mean you look foolish and it exposes you man. But do you.

              Originally posted by Sheikh View Post
              De La Hoya is not a great fighter at the level of guys you mentioned. He won belts in multiple weight classes but he was the ultra paper champion and lost most of his big fights
              Thank you

              Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
              I agree

              All of Oscar's loses have come to hall of fame fighters

              Trinidad
              Mosely
              Floyd
              Hopkins
              Pacquiao

              He took risks.

              Loma has lost to Salido who is not a hall of famer and Teo who may or may not end up in the hall of fame. What hall of fame fighters has Loma faced let alone beat?
              I give Oscar props for fighting a lot of great fighters. But he was outclassed in a lot of those fights. That's the main difference I see between him and Loma. Oscar had the face and the name but the skills were not top level. I do give him props for fighting other top guys though and not completely shying away from those challenges even though he did take advantage of his A side status sometimes.

              Loma wasn't outclassed last night, he was just neutralized by a big explosive fighter. Loma looked ATG at 126-130. He looks like a really good fighter in this era at 135. It is what it is. Thought it was a great fight last night and Lopez started great and held on. Credit to him.

              Originally posted by TheReadyTimeBoy View Post
              Loma IS an ATG level talent. Lopez was just too big and strong. Y'all just don't know enough about the sport to comprehend this.

              Loma isn't a backfoot defensive wizard like Floyd. He likes to come forward and use his angles. Lopez backed him up and Loma felt that power.
              This...well said man

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Fists_of_Fury View Post
                *You're . And I am not anti-white. Ask the resident afrocentric bigots like MCC, Big Dunn, travesty, etc... if I'm pro black or anti-white . I just call out the white supremacists of NSB like you for their unusual **** riding of only those their race. I like a good bit of fighters from all races but refuse to overrate and over hype guys with weak resumes. I clown Crawford as much as GGG and Lomachenko.
                Anyone who clowns GGG Loma and Crawford...I mean why are you advertising that as indicative of your boxing knowledge? It exposes you as an idiot. But keep going, now we know lol.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Loque-san View Post
                  Loma's win over Rigo wasn't a great win at all, not even a decent one. It was a meaningless circus fight pitting a fully-fledged super featherweight in his prime against a 38-year-old past his prime bantamweight. One of the biggest mismatches I've seen at this level considering all factors - i.e the activity level, the age and the size difference.

                  If they were the same size and both in their primes Rigo would have probably beaten Loma.

                  This fight against Lopez was very meaningful and the kind of fight where great fighters are supposed to show up. Loma for the most part didn't and lost.
                  Loma has looked very average relatively speaking at 135. Campbell had success and won 4 or 5 rounds. Linares was tied before the KO. It is what it is.

                  Anyone going overboard and hating too much on the Rigo win looks silly imo. It was more or less a 50/50 fight among fans going in. And then Loma really outclassed him. Was size a factor? Certainly. But just as Lopez gets credit for this win over a great guy who is not at his best weight, Loma deserves credit for the same type of win.

                  Fair to critique the Rigo win some but overall people should say it was a really good win. No real way around that.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by glenn mcrory View Post
                    You replied twice to a single one of my messages and I'm the one with issues.
                    Youre doing what you usually do, enter a thread that offends you , and literally reply to every single person who hurt your feelings.
                    Yeah I'm the one with the issues.

                    You've made literally hundreds of comments complaining about better fighters exposing Golovkin, all because you choose sh**ty fighters to support.

                    Stop backing fighters for ******, superficial reasons, and maybe you'll stop looking ****** after every fight.
                    Lol I'm just calling out ******ity where I see it, and if I choose to. I see a lot of dumb comments on here and don't always reply. But sometimes the comments are so dumb that I have to reply and try to educate you fellas.

                    I literally have no idea what you're talking about re GGG. Anyone who knows how to score a fight would say the only close fight that went 12 in his career was vs Derevy. Canelo got beat 8-4 twice and so did Danny.

                    People really trying to push that he lost in those fights, lol. It exposes you man. But keep on keeping on bro. The thing is, if you really wanted to slight a guy like that, you could just keep it real. Say he didn't live up to expectations in those fights etc, and go from there.

                    But you guys are so simple that you can't even do that lol. You insist on trying to spin everything to the most extreme level. When you do it all the time for certain fighters, it exposes you bud. Do better.

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                    • #80
                      fights like last night really show what the true ATG do is special i mean im not even a fan of pacquaio or a believer that margarito was anything special but for a 148lb 5ft 5in midget to chop down a 165lb 5ft 11in mexican zombie with a 6 inch reach advantage beat the living sh** out of him and make his eye almost fall out is crazy

                      if you saw that kind of match up and fight in your local bar you would sit with your mouth open lol

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