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  • #21
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
    So why has Oscar built up two Prospects of the Year without them?

    And PBC has built up none without Oscar?
    simple

    aside from canelo...what stars does golden boy have? literally 0

    while the pbc has a wide range of househould names spanning a few divisions

    cong**** on having garcia and ortiz jr....that doesnt mean a heck of alot right...both are great prospects and could be stars one day...im realistic and a fan....but tank davis will be doing a ppv at 25 and has sold out arenas in two cities

    you are fixated on garcia and ortiz jr being "prospects of the year"......you have failed to talk about what oscar did to build the golden boy fighters that haymon has....thats the whole point...but you wont and you cant because the pbc current roster, even when they started with GB, was build by haymon and schaefer

    telling me that GB is better because they two prospects of the year is literally the dumbest argument ive heard on here in some time

    al and schaefer build wilder..they built spence...they built canelo more than oscar ever did

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    • #22
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
      Spence appeared on Golden Boy undercards for the first fights of his career.

      I think Gervonta Davis is the only PPV-caliber fighter that PBC has built up who has no connections what so ever to Golden Boy Promotions.
      Lol, appearing on UC fights early on is what built him to be a PPV fighter? Don't be silly here.

      GBP has a very promising roster of young fighters. They will be just fine as long as they can mend the relationships with Canelo and Garcia. GBP also just simply didn't have the budget of other promotional companies which hurt them. I mean even their budget on DAZN is far less than Matchroom's and that impacts the type of fighters they can sign. Why else would a fighter like Castro sign with Hearn over GBP?

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post
        simple

        aside from canelo...what stars does golden boy have? literally 0

        while the pbc has a wide range of househould names spanning a few divisions

        cong**** on having garcia and ortiz jr....that doesnt mean a heck of alot right...both are great prospects and could be stars one day...im realistic and a fan....but tank davis will be doing a ppv at 25 and has sold out arenas in two cities

        you are fixated on garcia and ortiz jr being "prospects of the year"......you have failed to talk about what oscar did to build the golden boy fighters that haymon has....thats the whole point...but you wont and you cant because the pbc current roster, even when they started with GB, was build by haymon and schaefer

        telling me that GB is better because they two prospects of the year is literally the dumbest argument ive heard on here in some time

        al and schaefer build wilder..they built spence...they built canelo more than oscar ever did
        Golden Boy Promotions has proven time and time again that they know how to build fighters. Not just with their young guys now but with all the fighters Haymon stole from Oscar.

        What fighters has PBC has built into draws that didn't get exposure on Golden Boy cards first? Gervonta Davis is the only one.

        Just facts.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
          Lol, appearing on UC fights early on is what built him to be a PPV fighter? Don't be silly here.

          GBP has a very promising roster of young fighters. They will be just fine as long as they can mend the relationships with Canelo and Garcia. GBP also just simply didn't have the budget of other promotional companies which hurt them. I mean even their budget on DAZN is far less than Matchroom's and that impacts the type of fighters they can sign. Why else would a fighter like Castro sign with Hearn over GBP?
          The exposure on a major promoter's cards certainly didn't hurt his career.

          The point is PBC has no big draws that don't have some connection to GBP. Except for Tank Davis.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
            Golden Boy Promotions has proven time and time again that they know how to build fighters. Not just with their young guys now but with all the fighters Haymon stole from Oscar.

            What fighters has PBC has built into draws that didn't get exposure on Golden Boy cards first? Gervonta Davis is the only one.

            Just facts.
            again....golden boy promotions was haymon and schaefer lol..what part of that dont you understand? all of the pbc guys were built by schaefer and haymon...they didnt "steal" anyo of them because they were the ones building them while oscar was MIA.......and even canelo was

            cong**** on oscar building ortiz and garcia...i guess being "prospect of the year" is now some amazing benchmark! heck i guess those guys can retire now and will be HOF'ers...lol

            your argument is so deluded its not even funny man...ive seen you around here...i didnt think you were this dumb

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post
              again....golden boy promotions was haymon and schaefer lol..what part of that dont you understand?
              Haymon and Schaefer are long gone. Yet Oscar's company is still building up new talent.

              PBC hasn't built up anyone since they robbed Oscar and left him for dead. Outside of Tank Davis.

              What is it about that you don't get?

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              • #27
                Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
                richard made a comeback but quickly went silent

                Oscar wanted to keep Richard at GBP but it didn’t happen

                - -Dude, Oscar won a civil suit for damages done by that shady Swiss money manipulative Schaefer.

                What grade they put U back this year?

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                  The exposure on a major promoter's cards certainly didn't hurt his career.

                  The point is PBC has no big draws that don't have some connection to GBP. Except for Tank Davis.
                  Nah, that's just dumb. Why? PBC was started in 2015. A "star" being built would have had to start their career after that or on another platform. Spence became a star off what he did with the PBC and the fights he got from 2016-2019. Getting the slot after the US bball Olympic game didn't hurt.

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                  • #29
                    Yeah, I think they bottomed out a while ago and are looking promising again with the names mentioned being mentioned in this thread. GBP always holds it down in LA though, they are really good at being local promoters too.. but obvious this year they really couldn't

                    Matching Rashidi Ellis v Alexis Rocha will give them another player to watch out for as well

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
                      Nah, that's just dumb. Why? PBC was started in 2015. A "star" being built would have had to start their career after that or on another platform. Spence became a star off what he did with the PBC and the fights he got from 2016-2019. Getting the slot after the US bball Olympic game didn't hurt.
                      Golden Boy has built up two Prospects of the Year in that same timeframe.

                      Why hasn't PBC been able to?

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