Decline of Golden Boy Promos

[QballLobo]

That snake Richard Schaefer used Oscar’s name to quickly build up GBP roster and make them a major player right away.
Too bad he was stealing on the aide and worked with Haymon to undermine GBP when Oscar was battling his demons.
Schaefer hasn’t had much success without using Oscar’s name for clout.
I think if Oscar took a step back and got the right people to run the business right they could rebuild quickly.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Al Haymon stole the majority of Oscar's roster and HBO got out of the boxing business.

That's what happened to Golden Boy Promotions.

And even still they have two potential stars coming up with Vergil Ortiz and Ryan Garcia. PBC has yet to create a star that wasn't with GBP first.

Spence? Tank Davis?

Good point tbf though, the vast majority of PBC stars were guided by GBP.

[Curt Henning]

Partly due to Oscar’s declining reputation but more importantly his increasing involvement in actual Golden Boy business. When Richard was in charge of the actual decisions and core business, things got done professionally and relationships with fighters were better. I feel like like Oscar is like Floyd, in that they are better being the face of the company but should not get involved in day to day decision making, they need to have strong execs in charge and LEAVE them to run the business.

this is it...100 percent...but many of these "guys(i use it loosely because theyre a bunch of spineless women)" will never admit it because they hate al haymon and schaeffer, by association with haymon, so much.......the reality is golden boy was thriving under schaefer and his friendship with haymon.......these guys will cry to the holy heavens about how they did oscar dirty...but what they did was a forge a great working relationship that benefited both parties

[Curt Henning]

Al Haymon stole the majority of Oscar's roster and HBO got out of the boxing business.

That's what happened to Golden Boy Promotions.

And even still they have two potential stars coming up with Vergil Ortiz and Ryan Garcia. PBC has yet to create a star that wasn't with GBP first.

haymon and schaefer were driving that ship guy...oscar was nowhere to be found.....he letting schaefer run that business...schaefer and haymon had a great working relationship that benefited both parties...

stop acting petty....oscar was nowhere to be found...running around doing god knows what....nobody stole anybody....if oscar left well enough alone things could have been fine.....golden boy benefited greatly by having floyd use them to do his fights....floyd could have still partnered with top rank(bob originally thought, even though floyd was out of this TR contract, that floyd would still use TR as a promo company...thats why bob talked nice about floyd when he originally bought out...then turned when floyd started using golden boy)....floyd using GB was a boon....

stop acting like it was golden boy "building" all those fighters and stars....it was schaefer and haymon doing all the work and youre nuts if you think otherwise

when you talk about canelo being a "star".....schaeffer and haymon had more to do with that than oscar ever did

[sicko]

Well they put all their Eggs in one basket and now their Golden Goose is unhappy and wants out. If Canelo is able to get out of his deal with GBP, I think Oscar and GBP should probably look to either Sell GBP to the highest bidder OR they just scale down drastically and build up Vergil Ortiz and new Stars but it will be a struggle for awhile without Canelo

Promoters cannot just depend on 1 Star, they should try to build up Multiple Stars. Top Rank, PBC, Matchroom all are trying to create news stars and build up Multiple STARS while GBP, particularly Oscar put all the focus on Canelo for years and is just not starting to build up Ryan Garcia, Vergil Ortiz and Munguia which is great!

[ShoulderRoll]

Spence? Tank Davis?

Good point tbf though, the vast majority of PBC stars were guided by GBP.

Spence appeared on Golden Boy undercards for the first fights of his career.

I think Gervonta Davis is the only PPV-caliber fighter that PBC has built up who has no connections what so ever to Golden Boy Promotions.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Spence appeared on Golden Boy undercards for the first fights of his career.

I think Gervonta Davis is the only PPV-caliber fighter that PBC has built up who has no connections what so ever to Golden Boy Promotions.

Yeah I thought he’d started out with GBP but nearly all of his televised fights were with PBC I think. Tank is probably the only one then.

[ShoulderRoll]

haymon and schaefer were driving that ship guy...oscar was nowhere to be found.....he letting schaefer run that business...schaefer and haymon had a great working relationship that benefited both parties...

stop acting petty....oscar was nowhere to be found...running around doing god knows what....nobody stole anybody....if oscar left well enough alone things could have been fine.....golden boy benefited greatly by having floyd use them to do his fights....floyd could have still partnered with top rank(bob originally thought, even though floyd was out of this TR contract, that floyd would still use TR as a promo company...thats why bob talked nice about floyd when he originally bought out...then turned when floyd started using golden boy)....floyd using GB was a boon....

stop acting like it was golden boy "building" all those fighters and stars....it was schaefer and haymon doing all the work and youre nuts if you think otherwise

when you talk about canelo being a "star".....schaeffer and haymon had more to do with that than oscar ever did

You and I have discussed this before. Golden Boy has built up two Prospects of the Year since Haymon ran off with most of Oscar's roster.

PBC has not had similar success. That's just a fact.

Don't make me resurrect that thread.

[Curt Henning]

You and I have discussed this before. Golden Boy has built up two Prospects of the Year since Haymon ran off with most of Oscar's roster.

PBC has not had similar success. That's just a fact.

Don't make me resurrect that thread.

you can resurrect whatever youd like...it doesnt change the fact that it was **** and al building those boys up with "golden boys" roster....oscar was doing nothing...meanwhile **** and haymon were putting canelo on floyd undercards and setting up floyd/canelo

thats just fact and reality......oscar did NOTHING to build any of the pbc fighters....it was **** and al...and theres nothing you can say or do to change it

[ShoulderRoll]

you can resurrect whatever youd like...it doesnt change the fact that it was **** and al building those boys up with "golden boys" roster....oscar was doing nothing...meanwhile **** and haymon were putting canelo on floyd undercards and setting up floyd/canelo

thats just fact and reality......oscar did NOTHING to build any of the pbc fighters....it was **** and al...and theres nothing you can say or do to change it

So why has Oscar built up two Prospects of the Year without them?

And PBC has built up none without Oscar?