The Myth of black decline and Eastern European dominance in boxing

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  • nubianpiye
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    #41
    Originally posted by jmrf4435
    lol

    You created this thread. Which has "THREATENED" written all over it.

    he mad doe!! he mad!!
    I'm not threatened at all and nothing was written over my thread it was straightforward and honest as are most responses only a few of you appear to have taken issue which is ok I guess. Listing guys like Postol (who I like btw) as proof of dominance while denouncing belt holders is silly tbh. Why are you using silly outdated vernacular at the end of your post?

    anywqay clearly Eastern Europeans or any ethnicity for that matter is dominating boxing in fact those from eastern Europe are underperforming compared to the British who never seem to get this hype.

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    • jmrf4435
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      #42
      Originally posted by nubianpiye
      I'm not threatened at all and nothing was written over my thread it was straightforward and honest as are most responses only a few of you appear to have taken issue which is ok I guess. Listing guys like Postol (who I like btw) as proof of dominance while denouncing belt holders is silly tbh. Why are you using silly outdated vernacular at the end of your post?

      anywqay clearly Eastern Europeans or any ethnicity for that matter is dominating boxing in fact those from eastern Europe are underperforming compared to the British who never seem to get this hype.
      You don't get it..

      Living in north America and England gives you a huge advantage for exposure and proximity to big time promoters..

      Thai, eastern Euro, Philippine and even japanese fighters have to work harder for recognition.

      Some PBC fighters were literally given titles after fighting bums.

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      • QueensburyRules
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        #43
        Originally posted by nubianpiye
        This thread was influenced by the Arum avoids black boxers post, and The Paulie Malignaggi comments that unfairly (in my opinion) led to his dismissal.

        The narrative in boxing seems to be that Eastern Europeans now dominate boxing due in no part to fantastic fighters like Lomachenko and Beterbiev; however, in Boxing's 17 weight classes, we currently have 16 black champions of African descent whereas you currently have 8 champions of eastern European descent.

        The Dominant nation is still America with 19 champions, and the United Kingdom, a tiny nation continues to punch above its weight with 6 champions despite having one-sixth the population of America.

        Why does this myth of Eastern European dominance exist when they only have two more world champions than little Britain?
        - -Nobody cares about U race obsession.

        Arum as a talent moneymaking employer is color blind as are most boxing fans.

        Boxing now international and America less dominant every year almost. See the flagship heavywt division for proof the past 2 decades.

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        • jmrf4435
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          #44
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules
          - -Nobody cares about U race obsession.

          Arum as a talent moneymaking employer is color blind as are most boxing fans.

          Boxing now international and America less dominant every year almost. See the flagship heavywt division for proof the past 2 decades.
          he doesn't get it bro

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          • Clegg
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            #45
            Originally posted by nubianpiye
            anywqay clearly Eastern Europeans or any ethnicity for that matter is dominating boxing in fact those from eastern Europe are underperforming compared to the British who never seem to get this hype.
            Possibly the first time an American in NSB has said Brit fighters are underhyped

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            • jmrf4435
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              #46
              Originally posted by Clegg
              Possibly the first time an American in NSB has said Brit fighters are underhyped
              OP doesn't understand that is because of EDIIE HEARDN

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              • richardt
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                #47
                Originally posted by boliodogs
                From your past posts and threads you have an extreme hate for Eastern European fighters labeling them all as commies and stiff Eurobums. You also have an extreme love of Mexican boxers and overrate the hell out of them. many ranking places don't have Canelo number one and rate Loma above him.Garcia and Ortiz are just good prospects and NOT EVEN CHAMPION YET. But you have turned them into future huge stars and top pfp fighters.You need to stick to things as they are now not what you want them to be. Garcia and Ortiz might never make it.
                meanwhile GGG, Loma,Beterbiev, Bivol and Usyk are well proven excellent champions and you really hate that. What in the hell difference does it make that people outside of boxing don't know these good champions and can't spell their names??? This discussion is supposed to be about how good these boxers actually are in the ring and not about how popular or well known they are by non boxing fans FFS!
                I'll bet that KIDBAZOOKA doesn't respond to this post because he cannot possibly defend his extreme bias. He parades it loud and clear with every day. If he responds, I would be more shocked at that than I would be if I woke up tomorrow with my head crazy-glued to the carpet and pink elephants flying over my head.

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                • nubianpiye
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules
                  - -Nobody cares about U race obsession.

                  Arum as a talent moneymaking employer is color blind as are most boxing fans.

                  Boxing now international and America less dominant every year almost. See the flagship heavywt division for proof the past 2 decades.
                  One post about race does blurry make me obsessed this is an obsurd claim and just demonstrates your are uncomfortable discussing race at all. I've literally been complimentary of every race I've mentioned in this thread literally don't only thing I've said that could cause upset is that Eastern European fighters aren't dominant and that would only upset a biased Eastern European fanboy because it's a fact. Anyway I'm not prepared for any more insults our distractions this had been an otherwise good conversation I'll just ban any name callers of course we are free to agree and disagree attacking me because my facts upset you're dream I won't bother entertaining

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                  • jmrf4435
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by nubianpiye
                    One post about race does blurry make me obsessed this is an obsurd claim and just demonstrates your are uncomfortable discussing race at all. I've literally been complimentary of every race I've mentioned in this thread literally don't only thing I've said that could cause upset is that Eastern European fighters aren't dominant and that would only upset a biased Eastern European fanboy because it's a fact. Anyway I'm not prepared for any more insults our distractions this had been an otherwise good conversation I'll just ban any name callers of course we are free to agree and disagree attacking me because my facts upset you're dream I won't bother entertaining
                    Does Alexander Usyk give you nightmares?

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                    • MoneyKasha
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                      #50
                      I don't know if their dominating, but alot of Black American fight fans seem to be threatened by E. European boxers being successful

                      look at the LDBC, they hate on anyone who ain't black american

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