Loma/Lopez: If you ignore FACTS given to you, you're a coward.

[lolpz]

He can box?

I mean, FFS, how many times do I need to share this video from two MULTI-TIME CHAMPIONS telling you Lopez's one-dimensional strategy?






Linares gave him "hell"? Because he landed one good punch?

Ok bro

At no point in that video did I see either of them say that he's one dimensional. I don't know where you drew that conclusion. They pointed out what they saw in the Nakatani fight, but that doesn't mean that defines Lopez as a fighter.

Those two same fighters you posted that video of had the Linares-Lomachenko fight a 1 point fight. The other one had it a draw if my memory serves me correctly, at the time of the stoppage. Linares also put him on his ass, that sounds like hell to me.

[Combat Talk Radio]

At no point in that video did I see either of them say that he's one dimensional. I don't know where you drew that conclusion. They pointed out what they saw in the Nakatani fight, but that doesn't mean that defines Lopez as a fighter.

Those two same fighters you posted that video of had the Linares-Lomachenko fight a 1 point fight. The other one had it a draw if my memory serves me correctly, at the time of the stoppage. Linares also put him on his ass, that sounds like hell to me.

When's the last time you heard any fighter with a legit resume claim that Floyd Mayweather had a "pattern"?

Spoiler: you haven't. Because Floyd didn't have a pattern. He fought everyone different, which is why it was hard to get any rounds off of him.

Pattern = one-dimensional. But you already knew that. You're not that damn ******.

[lolpz]

When's the last time you heard any fighter with a legit resume claim that Floyd Mayweather had a "pattern"?

Spoiler: you haven't. Because Floyd didn't have a pattern. He fought everyone different, which is why it was hard to get any rounds off of him.

Pattern = one-dimensional. But you already knew that. You're not that damn ******.

Lopez is like 15 fights in...what pattern are they seeing?

They've only seen him against opposition he knocked out. Lopez has to prove himself in this fight, he did good in dismantling a proven fighter in Commey but this is his true coming out party.

My argument to you is, they don't know what they haven't seen. 12 fights into a fighter's career you have not truly gathered enough information to make the assessment YOU are saying they made. Mind you, it was Bradley who said it, and with limited knowledge on Lopez. They talked about their concerns about him heading into the Commey fight, they thought he wasn't ready for that type of opponent based on the Nakatani fight. Commey was supposed to give Lopez hell, but we all saw what happened.

Loma has the same number of fights but we know what he has to offer based on his pedigree and extensive history, this is the fight that will show the people what Lopez has to offer. At 21 Loma was coming off a 2008 Olympic gold medal.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Lopez is like 15 fights in...what pattern are they seeing?

They've only seen him against opposition he knocked out. Lopez has to prove himself in this fight, he did good in dismantling a proven fighter in Commey but this is his true coming out party.

My argument to you is, they don't know what they haven't seen. 12 fights into a fighter's career you have not truly gathered enough information to make the assessment YOU are saying they made. Mind you, it was Bradley who said it, and with limited knowledge on Lopez. They talked about their concerns about him heading into the Commey fight, they thought he wasn't ready for that type of opponent based on the Nakatani fight. Commey was supposed to give Lopez hell, but we all saw what happened.

Loma has the same number of fights but we know what he has to offer based on his pedigree and extensive history, this is the fight that will show the people what Lopez has to offer. At 21 Loma was coming off a 2008 Olympic gold medal.

Your bold is false.

The rest is fallacy.

You know why Commey got caught.

You also know that Loma doesn't fight anywhere near like that.

The closest parallel to Loma is Nagatani. The only missing factor is height.

What if height is not why Teo was eating right hands?

What if he's just a sucker for right hands?

With Nagatani he was able to land back yet he was still flustered and frustrated.

What do you think will happen if Loma peppers him with right hands and Lopez is swinging at air?

That last question is not an opinion. It's Loma's specialty. It should not be ignored based Lopez's experience from ONE fight. Lomachenko did that to 13 of his opponents.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

At no point in that video did I see either of them say that he's one dimensional. I don't know where you drew that conclusion. They pointed out what they saw in the Nakatani fight, but that doesn't mean that defines Lopez as a fighter.

Those two same fighters you posted that video of had the Linares-Lomachenko fight a 1 point fight. The other one had it a draw if my memory serves me correctly, at the time of the stoppage. Linares also put him on his ass, that sounds like hell to me.

If you can't see how and why they're criticizing Teo in this clip then you've shown how much boxing knowledge you posses and its not a lot.

Id waste my time explaining to you but id rather not waste my time on someone who doesn't want to know and doesn't care to understand.

[lolpz]

If you can't see how and why they're criticizing Teo in this clip then you've shown how much boxing knowledge you posses and its not a lot.

Id waste my time explaining to you but id rather not waste my time on someone who doesn't want to know and doesn't care to understand.

They criticised what they saw of him on that night, 21 years old 10 fights into his career.

If I’m so wrong, it should show tonight, correct?

[R-Hand Southpaw]

They criticised what they saw of him on that night, 21 years old 10 fights into his career.

If I’m so wrong, it should show tonight, correct?

Bruh.

You obviously have never seen Lopez box have you?

Is it cool now to pretend we know things we don't and double down on them when we're called out?

Bruh.

[Combat Talk Radio]

They criticised what they saw of him on that night, 21 years old 10 fights into his career.

Mike Tyson unified heavyweight at 23 years old, just under 4 years into his pro career.

We need to STOP using "he young doe" as an excuse not to criticize these fighters!

[lolpz]

Bruh.

You obviously have never seen Lopez box have you?

Is it cool now to pretend we know things we don't and double down on them when we're called out?

Bruh.

You’re assuming.

My argument is that he is both a much better fighter then we saw on that night, as well as more improved and seasoned. He is two years older and has learned from his mistakes, he is now a champion. You brought up a video of their thoughts on Lopez on that night after the Nakatani fight.

You simply don’t understand the argument I’ve been making the entire time. Your argument is a video of analysts and what THEY said they saw up until that point from Teofimo. I’m saying this isn’t the same Teofimo, and they also hadn’t seen enough of him to gauge or assess him properly.

[lolpz]

Mike Tyson unified heavyweight at 23 years old, just under 4 years into his pro career.

We need to STOP using "he young doe" as an excuse not to criticize these fighters!

You’re clearly missing my point.

I said because Teofimo is older and more experienced and better, it nullifies that entire video you are using to prove a point about the fight tonight. He is older, better, wiser, more seasoned, and is now a champion.

This is not the same Teofimo Lopez they analyzed that night. Hence I said in my last post that if all that is true it will show tonight, and I’m confident it wont.