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That's a lot bud! Interesting, I'm gonna make this post a game and see how much I agree and give myself a score.
Okay, final score isThis I agree with, good thread.
Canelo is overrated almost in every category he gets praised for, including but not limited to his level of "excitement" as a fighter.
True
The most talented fighters should be the most popular.
True
Tank at 130 has the best chance of beating Lomachenko.
True
Caleb Plant is the best fighter at 168 currently.
Hell I dunno, don't watch 168 enough tbh
Champions needing to "deserve" a fight with other champions is a disgusting narrative that gets regurgitated by fans.
True
Most boxing fans on this site don't understand nor appreciate the epitome of boxing which is to hit & not be hit.
True, not even me. I'd debate ya on it, but right now I'm having fun seeing my alignment score
Eye test is more important than resume. But everyone's eye isn't equipped enough to determine what makes a fighter good/elite.
True, almost no one know **** actually. I know boxing fans who can't see how fake WWE punching is.
American fighters aren't promoted nor appreciated enough by the media.
Damn True
Accolades by themselves don't necessarily mean you're an elite fighter regardless of division.
Meh, I respect the awards.
Fury doesn't get ridiculed enough for testing positive for PEDs.
That's true and I back the ****er these days
This era of Heavyweights is vastly overrated.
Damn True
Demetrius Andrade is a special fighter & has been since he was a teenager.
I dunno, seen him box like three times
No fighter in boxing gets assessed off 1 performance more than BJS vs Lemieux.
Maybe Wilder now
There is a really good chance Crawford & Spence never happens.
We all know that
Fighters receive way too much credit for becoming multiple division champions instead of fighting the people we want them to fight.
Nah, Multi-weight is better than resume and less than undisputed.
Meaningful fights should supersede every other fight in boxing but it's often an afterthought as boxing is a popularity contest.
Yup
AJ was fast tracked very early in his career & doesn't get enough credit to how quickly he was moved & rose to meet the challenges.
Too much credit. Went the weakest route possible
Josh Taylor owes Regis a rematch. Undisputed means there is no debate. & his win over Regis is most certainly debatable.
Yeah, okay.
If Canelo doesn't fight Andrade in the next year/year & a half he should be ridiculed to the highest degree.
That supposes he didn't fight anyone better, like Beterbiev...Right in the name son
Just cause a fighter beats a fighter doesn't necessarily mean he's a better fighter than him.
Yeah like how I'm better than my brother at Mortal Kombat except he bodies me all the time.
Keith Thurman beat Manny Pacquiao on my card.
...nah
Danny Garcia beat Herrera on my card.
Yes
Daniel Jacobs was robbed of the greatest comeback in boxing history vs GGG.
True
GGG doesn't receive enough criticism for criticizing fighters for the best not fighting the best, fighters being business men, then turning into exactly what he criticized.
True
Demetrius Andrade never ducked anyone.
Not that I know of
Andre Ward really legitimately beat Kovalev twice.
Yes he did
Just cause a fight is 50-50 on paper doesn't mean a fighter won't get dominated when they fight.
Absolutely
People pick & choose when they want to acknowledge a fighter is ducking or being ducked in boxing.
Could have stopped at acknowledge, it's no better in academia, historical societies have fanboys too
People act as if a fighter can't have a bad night in their career.
Part of the game, it's true as ****
Most boxing fans don't know what a duck is.
I own like twenty of the *****es. Terrible lttle ****ers actually.
Being biased hurts boxing more than people are willing to admit.
I'm not sure, seem encoded and ever-present
Demetrius Andrade is one of the best defensive fighters in the sport.
You really like Andrade I guess. I still dunno though.
Lomachenko's defensive is overrated.
How dare you
When ppl like the way, you win. They grossly overrate you.
Of course they do, styles and philosophies, everything has transitive weight and vicarious results.
I wouldn't be surprised if Crawford beat Mayweather in a mythical matchup.
Nonsense sir, nonsense.
If Floyd would have fought Demetrius Andrade around the time he fought Canelo it woulda been the most skillful fighter he fought in his career.
Nonsense sir, nonsense.
Sebastian Fundora shouldn't be allowed to compete at 154.
idgaf
If AJ was never tryna impress the way Wilder did weeks before. Ruiz woulda never beat him.
True
In most cases a fighter not having "power" is vastly overrated in boxing. These dudes are professionally athletes, most of them hit hard. Punching power is often confused with punch placement.
Style, no matter who you are you can't break simple Newtonian physics.
Eddie Hearn doesn't care about his U.S. fighters the same way he does his UK fighters.
Obviously
ESJ didn't keep that same energy for Crawford that he had for PBC welterweights.
True
Jorge Linares is overrated.
Who?
Every fight doesn't need to be fought to know who's gonna win but ppl pretend that's the case when two fighters fight on TV a lot, among other things...
Nope
If Haney was like Floyd he would have never lost to Ryan 3 times in the amateurs.
Okay
Canelo lied to his fans about wanting to be undisputed & gets no ridicule for it.
Did he? i didn't know that, the ****er
Andre Ward doesn't get the respect he deserves.
Everyone love SOG, you're crazy
Fighters know a threat when they see one but in most cases won't admit it.
Sure
Most boxing fans are followers & easily convinced.
Most humans
The way Andrade beat Nelson is one of most impressive performances bar none I seen in this era.
Meh
Bud would stop Thurman.
Yes
Marcus Browne could be the best or 2nd best LHW if he was more consistent.
Nah, Ezzard Charles, RJJ, that's it.
Bud is the biggest puncher at 147.
Who else is there?
Fighters may be over performing in these fights without fans.
No
Andrade now would beat GGG in his prime.
I don't know
I could keep going but I think I gave enough good ones
30-ish agrees
20-ish disagrees
Result: Yer alright there buddy.
I got distracted by my own typos so my count is approximate.
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The average boxing fan is not worth listening to or reading his opinions about boxing.Comment
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Mike Tyson was over rated, he never beat 1 truly world class fighter or have a career defining fight and has no real legacy, except knocking over average heavyweights.Comment
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My top 3 .
1. Mike Tyson would beat the brakes off Wilder making him one of the top 3 if he fought him within a years time .
2. Hrgovic will be Joshuas toughest fight and will need his best training camp yet When it takes place .
3. It’s a very strong era with the most Olympic champions at once and national ones as well , Fury and Joshua will definitely be in talks of fantasy match ups , Fury himself is a more difficult fight then a Muhammad Ali so how is it a weak era ?Comment
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Teo will destroy LomachenkoComment
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