Comments Thread For: Povetkin Hopes To Once Again Blast Whyte Out in Dramatic Fashion

[Roberto Vasquez]

FACT: Floyd called Manny out in 2012.




FACT: Floyd is and was older than Manny. So age is not an excuse.

FACT: Floyd called out the likes of Cotto, Mosley and Judah YEARS before those fights happened. Mosley's infamous toe excuse should not have escaped you. Nobody wanted to fight Floyd at that time because he wasn't a big name draw yet. This is on record, so

FACT: Floyd called out De La Hoya at least two years before that fight. De La Hoya refused over weight issues.

FACT: Floyd was supposed to fight Cory Spinks (another fighter people say Floyd "ducked") - the media hated the fight because Cory Spinks was an 'eye test' nobody at the time. Floyd went after the only champion to accept the challenge in Carlos Baldomir. That decision was ultimately the trigger for what would later become "Money" Mayweather.

FACT: Freddie Roach is on record saying that Manny Pacquiao refused the drug testing which tanked the fight originally.

FACT: Floyd initially offered Manny a rematch. Manny lied about the shoulder - which he hurt missing punches in the fight, NOT before the fight - and Floyd revoked it. A-Side privilege. All Manny had to do was tell the truth and ask respectfully - like Chino.



All of this is easily researchable. You should be ashamed of yourself.

EDIT: and before you go the Paul Williams route, here's him ON record saying he wasn't at Floyd's level, he hadn't earned it yet, he just being hyped before the accident happened. 'Eye test'

Wow well you made it very clear you a Floyd fan boy. No one else would care that much. And you still didn't explain why Floyd would fight a novice Canelo (best win Austin Trout) and not the peak version?

I know boxing and Manny didn't duck anyone until the last year or so of his career - when he became selective as he was losing his skills. That's why Manny has losses in his peak years and why he kept fighting Marquez who was a bogey man for him. Manny wasn't scared of losing. He never ducked anyone.

And stop making up FACTS. Roach says Floyd was aware of the shoulder injury before the fight. It's now up to you to produce your medical evidence (that you must have because you said FACT) that disproves him.

According to Roach, he made attempts to stop the fight without success.

"I didn't try to stop that fight until I found out that the injury was that bad.... that the injury on his shoulder would need surgery to fix. So we were going to go into the fight with a bad shoulder, so we had an agreement that Mayweather could shoot his hands up, which he does often, because he has very fragile hands... so he uses a painkiller that he has in his hands so he can get to a fight, and we had [an agreement] that Manny could get a painkiller for his shoulder. But on the night of the fight, he was allowed to use it and we weren't," Roach told The Dan Patrick Show.

https://www.boxingscene.com/roach-ma...injury--136587

Also maybe ask Amir Khan why how he managed to win Floyd's Twitter poll for his next opponent and Floyd chose a Khan victim for his next opponent instead...how embarrassing

[joe strong]

I think Cunnigham always causes problems for Fury - he is faster than Fury (in Fury's own words) so negates one of Fury's main advantages. I see Hunter causing Fury the same problems. I doubt they pick him.

That's why people thought Povetkin was finished becaue Povetkin is normally the smaller faster guy (but with big power) in the ring which gives him a lot of advantages against big plodding HWs and Hunter negated that with his own speed and mobility and made Povetkin look done when he wasn't

No Cunningham has no chin at HW & Fury just needed to lean on him for a few rounds. He wore him down & took him out. Cunningham was a great CW but he was down a lot throughout his career. Fury is just too big & back then he also got dropped by one of my favourite fighters Neven Pajkic. Fury is much better now & I don't see the current version of Fury having any issues with Cunningham. Hunter can take a punch but he wore down in the second half of the Povetkin fight after controlling the first half. I think Povetkin is still the #4 HW even at 41. I think Fury's combination of size & skill would be too much for any current HW.

[Roberto Vasquez]

No Cunningham has no chin at HW & Fury just needed to lean on him for a few rounds. He wore him down & took him out. Cunningham was a great CW but he was down a lot throughout his career. Fury is just too big & back then he also got dropped by one of my favourite fighters Neven Pajkic. Fury is much better now & I don't see the current version of Fury having any issues with Cunningham. Hunter can take a punch but he wore down in the second half of the Povetkin fight after controlling the first half. I think Povetkin is still the #4 HW even at 41. I think Fury's combination of size & skill would be too much for any current HW.

You need to watch/listen to Fury with Joe Rogan where Fury said Cunningham was the best boxer he ever faced and he couldn't out-box him.

The obvious thing is - if Fury is too much for any HW why then fight so many boxers outside the top 20? Would relative novice AJ do that?

Fury needs to fight opponents at least as good as AJ is fighting from now on. Looking forward to getting back on the Fury bandwagon if he fights and beats someone in the top-10 next

[joe strong]

You need to watch/listen to Fury with Joe Rogan where Fury said Cunningham was the best boxer he ever faced and he couldn't out-box him.

The obvious thing is - if Fury is too much for any HW why then fight so many boxers outside the top 20? Would relative novice AJ do that?

Fury needs to fight opponents at least as good as AJ is fighting from now on. Looking forward to getting back on the Fury bandwagon if he fights and beats someone in the top-10 next

I know he said that about Cunningham but after he got dropped Fury put the pedal down & used his size to take him out. I liked Cunningham but he didn't have the chin for HW. He had great boxing skill but that chin would always fail him both at CW & HW. He had a nice career though. He won a few world titles at CW & it's a shame he couldn't cash one of those massive HW checks from a title fight. I know they are not the same size but Maskaev is a lot like Cunningham (Although Maskaev won a world title at HW). Great boxing skills & power but that chin failed him too often. He would be winning a fight & BAM he would then be looking up at the lights from his back.

[Roberto Vasquez]

I know he said that about Cunningham but after he got dropped Fury put the pedal down & used his size to take him out. I liked Cunningham but he didn't have the chin for HW. He had great boxing skill but that chin would always fail him both at CW & HW. He had a nice career though. He won a few world titles at CW & it's a shame he couldn't cash one of those massive HW checks from a title fight. I know they are not the same size but Maskaev is a lot like Cunningham (Although Maskaev won a world title at HW). Great boxing skills & power but that chin failed him too often. He would be winning a fight & BAM he would then be looking up at the lights from his back.

Fury did actually use an illegal move to beat Cunningham but yes was fair in my opinion. There's got to be some rough stuff in boxing.

Cunningham as actually pretty bad at Heavyweight but my point was more he is the kind of opponent who would give Fury problems. Anyone fast and who can box would give him issues - because they would nullify his strengths. Wilder's speed alone caused him big problems. That's why I believe he won't fight Hunter

[joe strong]

Fury did actually use an illegal move to beat Cunningham but yes was fair in my opinion. There's got to be some rough stuff in boxing.

Cunningham as actually pretty bad at Heavyweight but my point was more he is the kind of opponent who would give Fury problems. Anyone fast and who can box would give him issues - because they would nullify his strengths. Wilder's speed alone caused him big problems. That's why I believe he won't fight Hunter

Hunter wasn’t even mentioned as an opponent. They looked at Rivas but sounds like Kabayel or Takam. I’d rather see Kabayel or Rivas instead of Takam.

[Roberto Vasquez]

Hunter wasn’t even mentioned as an opponent. They looked at Rivas but sounds like Kabayel or Takam. I’d rather see Kabayel or Rivas instead of Takam.

Rivas and Hunter are top-10 so there you go.

Wow Fury is really taking on the big names there. He must really believe he is the best heavyweight on the planet taking those kind of risks.

It's like Fury doesn't want us to respect him.

[joe strong]

Rivas and Hunter are top-10 so there you go.

Wow Fury is really taking on the big names there. He must really believe he is the best heavyweight on the planet taking those kind of risks.

It's like Fury doesn't want us to respect him.

I respect him & I like him. I prefer the Wilder trilogy fight but no live gate it ain’t happening & I doubt he takes a big risk until the Joshua fight.

[Roberto Vasquez]

I respect him & I like him. I prefer the Wilder trilogy fight but no live gate it ain’t happening & I doubt he takes a big risk until the Joshua fight.

Yep that's Fury. Only risks he takes are the big fights.

Pretty sure if he beats Joshua first fight he will retire to avoid rematch as well.

[joe strong]

Yep that's Fury. Only risks he takes are the big fights.

Pretty sure if he beats Joshua first fight he will retire to avoid rematch as well.

One thing Fury always said was it is all about the money. Once you get that big payday how could you be motivated to that same level prior to cashing that check? It happen to Lennox Lewis after Tyson. He beat Vitali but man he realized he just wasn’t into another training camp for a rematch. Went out on top at 38. Look at Joseph Parker. He made like 18 million for the Joshua fight. Never been the same. Ruiz after Joshua. I would not be surprised if Fury calls it a day after a couple Joshua fights. Wilder after Fury although I could see Wilder still trying to get a Joshua payday but he is 35...